Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by dennis1077, Jun 26, 2020.
How low in frequency they go and bass output are not the same.
Was trying to sell my pm8005 integrated for $849 recently
You've really dragged me down the rabbit hole. I was planning my amp upgrade for AT LEAST a year off. If I lower my amp ambitions and buy refurbished, I could possibly upgrade by the end of the summer. It's not the Marantz PM8006 I wanted, but a refurbished PM PM5005 is 1/3 of the price.
Having both, it's not the same amp. I have mine running the NHT SuperZeros. You should consider what I told you earlier about NHT (to which you did not respond) but hold out for at least the PM6006. They are often on accessories4less for just $100 more and are currently:
MARANTZ PM6006 2-Ch x 60 Watts Integrated Amp w/ D-to-A
They also sell the refurb PM8006 for $899! Out of stock but you can get on the list.
Search this site for Warren Jarrett's comments about NHT speakers. I've known about them since the mid-90's. You do yourself a disservice if you don't look into them.
I'll take a closer look at the NHT's. Gonna explore them now!
Am I looking at the right speaker? The price seems too good to be true.
You need SuperOnes more than SuperZeros
Amazon USED TO carry the SuperOnes at ridiculous price of $104 apiece. I procrastinated and left it at that, now they're either out of stock, or back close to regular price of $175 apiece. Instead, I got a pair of the W 225's.
I think that even with SuperOnes a sub will be a must.
The SuperZeros have even better imaging IMO than the SuperOnes IMO but many people would want to add a 10" sub (not me, however). It was the SuperOnes I suggested you check out. But yes, Amazon us undercutting NHT and selling their speakers for less than their wholesale cost and have been for awhile. Check NHT's website nhthifi.com for what they have to sell them for. The SuperOnes are not currently available on Amazon. The SuperZeros are the steal of the century (I have two pairs on TV based systems for TV and music through my PM5005 and PM6004). I run them without a sub (I hate subs). A sub is ABSOLUTELY NOT "a must" with the SuperOnes! They run a 6.5" driver. Get them first and see for yourself. Add a sub later if you want that awful thump. Remember, these are acoustic suspension speakers which is a completely different animal than ported speakers.
NHT SuperOne 2.1
At $175 each, still a crazy good price but currently sold out (gee, I wonder why??). And read Warren Jarrett's thread about these speakers - do a site search here! You can find the SuperOne's online, just look around.
I would suspect they are sold out because of COVID supply chain issues, not necessarily because there was a run on them.
I'm not a big fan of subs myself. In fact, I had resisted getting one for years myself. Until I paired my tube amp with a pair of tower speakers that go down to 37 Hz spec-wise, and felt a definite need for more "body".
The SuperOnes go down to 56 Hz on paper, which would make a sub a definite must for me. Unless you can tell me that in real life they sound like they go down to 26 Hz?
YMMV, of course, you may not like much bass to begin with.
I lived in too many cities to like bass much. Look, I'm happy with the bass response in the SuperZeros. But the SuperOnes do better than most bookshelf speakers and the bass is tight based on the acoustic suspension design. But I'm a no subs ever type of listener. As the Brits say, "Horses for courses."
They are small batch speakers and long before ChiVi, they sold out often.
Tomorrow I am going to order a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 225's. Thanks to everyone that offered their input. I considered options like the NHT Super Zeros but ultimately the Wharfedale's felt right.
I'm going to buy a pair of Wharfedale ST-1 stands along with the speakers. The top plate measures 6" wide x 8.25" deep. Yet the speaker dimensions are 6-7/8"W x 11-7/16"D. The depth is off by nearly 4 inches. Is this normal or should I find a stand with different dimensions?
Only if they are Bucharts
Congrats. Surprised you didn't consider the latest Elac B6's though. All the rage for under $500.
I did consider the Elac's! I actually agonized over the choices. At some point you gotta make a decision. I'm hoping the Warfedale's are a good fit.
Good luck with your choice!
Enjoy. Give them a solid pair of speaker cables too.
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