Music Matters Definitive Blue Note 45 RPM and 33 & 1/3 RPM vinyl series (pt7)

Yeah, I know what a non-fill is but I assume that on this record everyone had it in the same general place of a song?

 

It did not end well. Among other problems, I ended up being accused of theft when I pointed out that they failed to ship a record to me, getting no further responses, and having to dispute the charge with my card company. But my opinions on MM are well-documented elsewhere in this thread so I won't go into them again. But I only buy second-hand or from other dealers now.

 

Yes. It was during the 2nd track, side 2. But remember, the actual non-fill occurs with each actual pressing, so it can sound different and each occurrence can last a bit different in length with each passing.

 

I feel bad for you. It's penny-wise, pound-foolish with their attitude.

I have pointed out that an outfit like Music Direct wants your loyalty beyond one record. And they'll act as a buffer between you and a manufacturer. With MM, there is no buffer. Their largely wonderful products and sometimes poor customer service aren't a good match. With the online retailers, you have a slew of costumer service people to help, and an accessible hierarchy if needed (I mean, for example), it's not all that hard to get Chad Kassem on the line if you call Acoustic Sounds).

 

I promise I'm not going to bang on about my issue with Somethin' Else any more, but after mailing both Ron and Lori again about the record they've offered to send me another OR give me my money back. result! shame I had to threaten to open a dispute to get a satisfactory resolution, but it is what is is.

I'm torn what to do really. can anyone here vouch for the Anaolgue Productions 2x 45rpm. reviews are favourable and I have a few AP records, which are absolutely stellar. the only difference I can find is perhaps the jackets aren't quite the same quality as MM. still very, very nice though. kind of tempted to go for that one, to be honest

cheers guys

 

Did you ever try it out on a different turntable setup?

 

Haven't heard the 33 to compare, but I have the AP 45, and it sounds stellar on my system--one of the best sounding Blue Note reissues, to my ears and on my system.

 

I didn't, no. I could tell there was a serious issue with the record from first needle drop though, so didn't really see the need. it sounded like a 40 year old, trashed record to be honest! shame.

anyway, all's well that ends well.

think I'll go for the AP45

EDIT: I did play the record to a friend though, just to get a second opinion and he said it was an absolute dog! good enough for me

 

Hey, I resent what you're implying.

 

Oh man, the Ike Quebec "Blue & Sentimental" 33 SMOKES. Wow. Up there with "Midnight Blue" 33 sound quality.

 

hello, i hope someone can help me...

I have one question regarding Music matters inner sleeves.
i bought on ebay "Night in Tunisia" and when i opened it i saw that inner sleeves are white one ???
Not classic clear one ?
So can anyone confirm me what kind of inner are in Art Blakey "night in Tunisia" ..
i have other Music MAtters records but neither with white inners,
regards Mladen

 

I recall the first reissues - with the white hype stickers - had white inner sleeves.

 

thank you on quick answer...
it is first time i see Music matters record whit white inner sleeves. Yes it has white hype ticker.

thanks !

 

For anyone living in the Seattle / Tacoma area, Hi-Voltage Records in Tacoma has a pretty large selection of Music Matters records for sale in their shop that I hadn't noticed before visiting there on Sunday.

 

Yes--the earliest Music Matters releases (during the first year or so) used the white paper inner sleeves, with soft plastic lining.

 

Were they pressed at RTI?

 

I believe they were. The pressing plant didn't change--only the inner sleeves. My recollection is that they made the switch because the stiffer plastic inners were less likely to cause seam splits during shipping, though my memory is not super clear on that. All of the earlier Music Matters releases (including Night in Tunisia) definitely used the poly-lined paper inners, though.

 

Has anyone else ordered directly from Music Matters recently? I just got three records (45s at the original prices, years later, for what it's worth). What I found interesting is that they didn't come from Music Matters, even though I used their website to buy. Rather, they came from Jeff Gold, c/o Recordmecca.com.

I wonder whether MM has sold the business or hired Gold to run their inventory and sales, or what. Gold is a pretty famous collector, as is Ron Rambach, so I imagine they might be friends.

 

I have ordered from them directly recently (two orders within past month or so) and I believe they came from MM. I saw no mention of Jeff or Recordmecca.

 

I did in early July, I didn't notice anything like that, although I wasn't paying attention. I just ordered a batch of records (also 45s still at their original price, well at least the original price as far as I know, I only started getting MM in February and $50 has been the regular price for a 45 since then), I'll have to look for that when the order comes in.

 

Which titles? I did a quick search and no titles came up on the Record Mecca site. Hiring a third-party to handle inventory and sales would seem like a very strange move, IMO.

 

I've posted a version of this before, but this is much more complete as I'm nearing the end of collecting these. For record nerds like me. Sane people need not read on. Key: KPG is Kevin P. Gray, SH is Steve Hoffman, RR is Ron Rambach, JH is Joe Harley, ATM is Acoustech Mastering, and CA is Cohearent Audio. I don't know who AS is (see Art Blakey - Free for All).

I thought this would be helpful info for people following the history of the company and the evolution in its mastering approach. Please add or correct any information you may find missing or inaccurate.

Dec 2007
Art Blakey - The Big Beat (KPG/SH@ATM)
Horace Parlan - Speakin’ My Piece

Feb 2008
Kenny Drew - Undercurrent
Lou Donaldson - LD+3 (KPG/SH@ATM)

Apr 2008
Hank Mobley - Soul Station (KPG/SH@ATM)
Horace Parlan - Us Three

May 2008
Art Blakey - A Night in Tunisia (KPG/SH@ATM)
Jackie McLean - Bluesnik (KPG/SH@ATM)

July 2008
Tina Brooks - True Blue
Horace Silver - The Cape Verdean Blues

Sept 2008
Freddie Hubbard - Here to Stay (KPG/SH@ATM)
Johnny Coles - Little Johnny C

Nov 2008
Lee Morgan - Tom Cat (KPG@ATM)
Sonny Clark - Leapin’ and Lopin’ (KPG/SH@ATM)

Jan 2009
Sonny Clark - Cool Struttin’
Gil Mellé - Patterns in Jazz (KPG/SH@ATM)

March 2009
Hank Mobley - Sextet 1568
Donald Byrd - The Cat Walk (KPG/SH@ATM)

Apr 2009
Freddie Redd - Shades of Redd (KPG/SH@ATM)
Tina Brooks - Back to the Tracks (KPG/SH@ATM)

June 2009
Dexter Gordon - Doin’ Alright (KPG/SH@ATM)
Lee Morgan - Candy

July 2009
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch (KPG/SH@ATM)
Kenny Dorham - Round about Midnight at the Café Bohemia (KPG@ATM)

Sept 2009
Wayne Shorter - Juju (KPG/SH@ATM)
John Jenkins with Kenny Burrell (KPG@ATM)

Oct 2009
Hank Mobley - Roll Call (KPG/SH@ATM)
Jackie McLean - Swing, Swang, Swingin’ (KPG/SH@ATM)

Nov 2009
Freddie Hubbard - Open Sesame (KPG/SH@ATM)
Horace Parlan - On the Spur of the Moment (KPG/SH@ATM)

Dec 2009
Lee Morgan - Search for the New Land (KPG@ATM)
Sonny Rollins - Vol. 1 (KPG/SH@ATM)

Jan 2010
Grant Green - Matador
Curtis Fuller - The Opener (KPG/SH@ATM)

Feb 2010
Grant Green - Talkin’ About (KPG/SH@ATM)
Joe Henderson - Our Thing (KPG/SH@ATM)

March 2010
Lee Morgan - Vol. 3 (KPG/SH@ATM)
Dexter Gordon - Gettin’ Around

Apr 2010
Larry Young - Unity
Clifford Brown Memorial Album (KPG/SH@ATM)

May 2010
Grant Green - Solid (KPG/SH@ATM)
Louis Smith - Smithville (KPG/SH@ATM)

June 2010
Hank Mobley - Quintet (KPG@ATM)
Stanley Turrentine - Up at Minton’s, Vol. 2 (KPG@ATM)

July 2010
Horace Silver - Song for My Father (KPG@ATM)
Kenny Dorham - Afro Cuban (KPG/SH@ATM)

Sept 2010
Joe Henderson - Inner Urge (KPG@ATM)
Thad Jones - The Magnificent

Oct 2010
Andrew Hill - Point of Departure
Donald Byrd - Byrd in Hand (KPG/SH@ATM)

Nov 2010
Wayne Shorter - Night Dreamer (KPG@ATM)
Lou Donaldson - Lou Takes Off (KPG/SH@ATM)

Dec 2010
Grachan Moncur III - Evolution (KPG/SH@ATM)
Paul Chambers - Quintet (KPG@ATM)

Jan 2011
Kenny Burrell - Freedom (KPG@ATM)
Hank Mobley - Quartet (KPG@ATM)

Feb 2011
Sam Rivers - Fuchsia Swing Song (KPG@ATM)
Dexter Gordon - A Swingin’ Affair (KPG@ATM)

Mar 2011
Jackie McLean - Destination Out (KPG@ATM)
Lee Morgan - Indeed (KPG@ATM)

Apr 2011
Hank Mobley - Another Workout (KPG@ATM)
Horace Silver - The Stylings of Silver (KPG/SH@ATM)

May 2011
Elvin Jones - Puttin’ It Together (KPG@ATM)
Johnny Griffin - A Blowin’ Session (KPG@ATM)

June 2011
Sonny Rollins - Newk’s Time (KPG/SH@ATM)
Cliff Jordan - Cliff Craft (KPG@ATM)

July 2011
Sonny Clark - Sonny’s Crib (KPG/SH@ATM)
Johnny Griffin - The Congregation (KPG/SH@ATM)

Aug 2011
Elvin Jones - Genesis (KPG@ATM)
Art Blakey - Like Someone in Love (KPG@ATM)

Sept 2011
Freddie Hubbard - Goin’ Up (KPG@CA)
J.R. Monterose (KPG@ATM)

Oct 2011
Wayne Shorter - The Soothsayer (KPG@CA)
McCoy Tyner - The Real McCoy (KPG@CA)

Nov 2011
Bobby Hutcherson - Happenings (KPG@ATM)
Kenny Dorham - Una Mas (KPG@CA)

Dec 2011
Blue Mitchell - The Thing to Do (KPG@CA)
Horace Silver - 6 Pieces of Silver (KPG@ATM)

Jan 2012
Art Blakey - Indestructible (KPG@ATM)
Lee Morgan - The Procrastinator (KPG@CA)

Feb 2012
Jackie McLean - One Step Beyond (KPG RR JH@CA)
Freddie Hubbard - Ready for Freddie (KPG RR JH@CA)

Mar 2012
Wayne Shorter - Adam’s Apple (KPG RR JH@CA)
Stanley Turrentine - Look Out (KPG/RR@CA)

Apr 2012
Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles (KPG RR JH@CA)
Dexter Gordon - Our Man in Paris (KPG RR@CA)

May 2012
Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil (KPG/RR@CA)
Grant Green - Street of Dreams (KPG RR JH@CA)

Sept 2012
Herbie Hancock - Inventions and Dimensions (KPG RR JH@CA)
Art Blakey - Free for All (KPG RR AS@CA)

Oct 2012
Joe Henderson - In ’n’ Out (KPG@CA)
Horace Silver - Finger Poppin’ (KPG/RR@CA)

Dec 2012
Larry Young - Into Somethin’ (KPG/RR @CA)
Pete La Roca - Basra (KPG@CA)

Jan 2013
Herbie Hancock - Speak Like a Child (KPG/RR@CA)
Andrew Hill - Judgment (KPG/RR@CA)

Mar 2013
Horace Silver & The Jazz Messengers (KPG/RR@CA)
Grant Green - Gooden’s Corner (KPG/RR@CA)

Apr 2013
Herbie Hancock - Takin’ Off (KPG/RR@CA)
Hank Mobley - The Feelin’s Good (KPG/RR@CA)

June 2013
Art Blakey - Mosaic (KPG/RR@CA)
Horace Parlan - Headin’ South (KPG/RR@CA)

July 2013
Joe Henderson - Mode for Joe (KPG/RR@CA)
Ike Quebec - Easy Living (KPG/RR@CA)

Sept 2013
Lee Morgan - The Gigolo (KPG/RR@CA)
Donald Byrd - Royal Flush (KPG/RR@CA)

Oct 2013
Stanley Turrentine - Jubilee Shout (KPG/RR@CA)
Dizzy Reece - Star Bright (KPG/RR@CA)

Nov 2013
Sonny Clark - Dial “S” for Sonny (KPG/RR@CA)
Horace Parlan - Happy Frame of Mind (KPG/RR@CA)

Dec 2013
Art Blakey - At the Café Bohemia Vol. 1 (KPG/RR@CA)
Art Blakey - At the Café Bohemia Vol. 2 (KPG/RR@CA)

Jan 2014
John Coltrane - Blue Train (KPG/RR@CA)
Grant Green - Idle Moments (KPG/RR@CA)

Mar 2014
Hank Mobley - Soul Station (KPG/RR@CA)
Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue (KPG/RR@CA)

May 2014
Tina Brooks - True Blue (KPG/RR@CA)
Dexter Gordon - Go! (KPG@CA)

July 2014
Joe Henderson - Page One (KPG/RR@CA)
Art Blakey - Moanin’ (KPG/RR@CA)

Sept 2014
Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder (KPG@CA)
Kenny Drew - Undercurrent (KPG/RR@CA)

Nov 2014
Sonny Clark - Cool Struttin’ (KPG/RR@CA)
Cannonball Adderley - Somethin’ Else (KPG@CA)

Jan 2015
Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch (KPG/RR@CA)
Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage (KPG/RR@CA)

Feb 2015
Art Blakey - The Big Beat (KPG/RR@CA)
Ike Quebec - Blue and Sentimental (KPG/RR@CA)

March 2015
Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Isles (KPG/RR@CA)
Dexter Gordon - Our Man in Paris (KPG/RR@CA)

April 2015
Horace Parlan - Speakin’ My Piece (KPG/RR@CA)
Stanley Turrentine with the Three Sounds - Blue Hour (KPG/RR@CA)

May 2015
Grant Green - Matador (KPG/RR@CA)
Bud Powell - The Scene Changes (KPG/RR@CA)

July 2015
Andrew Hill - Point of Departure (KPG/RR@CA)
Grant Green - Green Street (KPG/RR@CA)

Aug 2015
Larry Young - (Unity KPG/RR@CA)
Jackie McLean - Right Now! (KPG/RR@CA)

Sept 2015
Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil (KPG/RR@CA)
Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (KPG/RR@CA)

Oct 2015
Hank Mobley - Workout (KPG/RR@CA)
Johnny Coles - Little Johnny C (KPG/RR@CA)

Dec 2015
Kenny Clarke and Francy Boland - The Golden 8 (KPG/RR@CA)
Horace Parlan - Us Three (KPG/RR@CA)

Oct 2016
Lee Morgan - Search for the New Land (KPG/RR@CA)
Thad Jones - The Magnificent (KPG/RR@CA)

Nov 2016
Lee Morgan - Candy (KPG/RR@CA)
Hank Mobley - 1568 (KPG/RR@CA)

Dec 2016
Lee Morgan - Lee-Way (KPG/RR@CA)
Horace Silver - The Cape Verdean Blues (KPG/RR@CA)

Jan 2017
Freddie Hubbard - Ready for Freddie (KPG/RR@CA)
Jackie McLean - Jackie’s Bag (KPG/RR@CA)

Feb 2017
Wayne Shorter - Night Dreamer (KPG/RR@CA)
Art Blakey - Indestructible (KPG/RR@CA)

March 2017
Dexter Gordon - (Gettin’ Around KPG/RR@CA)
Duke Pearson - (Wahoo! KPG/RR@CA)
Kenny Dorham - Whistle Stop (KPG/RR@CA)

 

Clifford Brown - Memorial Album
Freddie Redd - Shades of Redd
Grant Green - Talkin' About

I'm pretty sure it's related to Ron being done with the business; I think he moved to Hawaii. Although when I asked if they really weren't going to cut more titles, he told me never say never.

 

It was on the mailing label on the outside of the box. Jeff Gold, c/o Reccordmecca, and then the address, which differs from the MM address. First time I've seen that.

 

If I recall correctly mine were addressed from Ron... but no longer have the boxes to double check. I may be ordering again soon though.