Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Vinyl Fan 1973, Apr 2, 2013.
Absolutely, it’s wonderful.
Agree, unless you get one where they use original stampers. Occasionally, they do cut an outstanding sounding record....but it’s seldom.
One that is outstanding is A Perfect Circle ‘Thirteenth Step’. Trouble is that nowadays, a lot of people on both here and discogs say almost everything sounds ‘amazing’.
It is, although some copies look quite bad on the surface. Bad QC.
Hi res digital
Flat heavy quality quiet vinyl
Hit and miss with different titles but the hits can be very very good soundwise.
- Alice in chains Unplugged sounds stellar
- Same with jar of flies/sap
- Ratm s/t sounds great, theres two different issues so make sure you get the right one.
(This forum is your friend for that)
I only own a handful of MoV titles, namely Ministry's Filth Pig and Dark Side of the Spoon and The Transformers: The Movie soundtrack. The two Ministry reissues have a much better dynamic range than their CD counterparts and the Transformers soundtrack sounded great. The only concern I have with them is that the artwork used for the reissues tend to look really bad on some reissues, like the Transformers soundtrack looking like it was scanned from a very dirty copy, and some that I seen are quite blurry or pixelated.
The worst sleeve reissue I have seen from MOV was the Simon And Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water from 2009:
Simon And Garfunkel* - Bridge Over Troubled Water
Ron Wood's I've Got My Own Album To Do sounds phenomenally good. I'd only heard a mid-80s CD before though.
I actually did track one down, not long after I wrote that. One of the nicest sounding albums in my collection.
I got lucky, my copy is flawless and CD silent.
Actually I’ve found that as my analog front end has improved, MOV pressings seem to sound worse.
Apart from the really good ones that are worth seeking out, I am very cautious about them. I think they are quite similar to Sinply Vinyl in that they are both pressed by Record Industry and their approach is almost identical. Simply Vinyl also have some standout records but, on the whole, they are also hit and miss (largely miss)
Simply Vinyl is not pressed in Haarlem.
IMO MOV deserve a lot of cheers. I do agree their releases are not always the very best versions to be had, but I would still call them a pretty much safe bet if you're looking for a quality version of a desired release. I don't think its fair to say caution should be used. Jayhawks, Hendrix, J Geils Band, Gene Clark, Love and many more. Quality editions with great sound at a reasonable price. Just my two cents....
Mixed bag, but amongst the good ones I have are the STP Purple (cover art is terrbile though), Hendrix Axis mono (flatter/quiter than the US cut I A/B'd), a couple latter day Dylans, and the 'Smith '9 Lives'.
Amongst the bad : I have the Clash w/7" from MOV, and I'm only keeping it for the 7", because the 12" just doesn't sound good. Only buy if you're a completest who needs the 7", which I am not, but I already have it, so...
In synopsis, MOV is probably like most labels who predominantly specialize in reissues, insofar as that there are good ones, bad ones, great ones, terrible ones, and some that are between those. It pays to do your research before plunking down your coin.
The STP Purple cover is pretty bad, too...
Tragically Hip reissues sound great.
I only own one title - "The Time Machine" by Alan Parsons. I had to order it through "Rough Trade" from Europe which costed me almost $50 (IMO way too expensive, I will not do it again). This is a 1999 album never released before on LP so I just wanted an LP version. Sound quality is OK I guess, anyway there is no analog master for this album so it's no-win situation. Print quality of the cover and inner sleeves is pretty good.
I didn't like two things. First - they split album on two LP's. Yes, I know it's hard to fit album that long to one LP with good sound quality, but in the past it was still possible and I know more than one example of that. I guess these good and qualified mastering engineers has been long time retired or already dead and modern ones just not as good. Still bugs me.
Second - they put stupid bonus track in the end, I hate bonus tracks! I just want any reissue to be exactly as original.
I think you and I are in the minority but I agree with you on the bonus tracks. Just gimme the album as it were!
Info copied from hype sticker:
LP 1 Original album remastered
LP2 14 bonus tracks, 9 previously unreleased
And I also think $50 is way too much.
In EU about €30.
I think in the past it was mostly the studios trying to save money when the format was fledgling, most of the older engineers will still tell you they've always been against trying to put albums longer than 40 mins on a single LP.
Lyman notes that records produced during the LP's heyday rarely held more than 40 minutes of music — total. “And they sounded great! Because of the CD format, albums are definitely getting longer. These days, LPs are almost always over 45 minutes, as people try to cram more and more onto records. If you have anything over 40 minutes, spread it out; make the investment and do a double-LP release.”
The engineers I spoke with recommended putting no more than 16 to 18 minutes of music on a 12-inch record at 33⅓ rpm. “Anything over 18, and you begin to sacrifice sound quality,” Lyman warns. “The longer the disc, the lower the overall volume. When you're cutting a record at a lower volume, the noise floor increases.” (Disc manufacturers often post the recommended playing times for different-sized records at various speeds on their Web sites.)
I have a Simply Vinyl edition of Screamadelica and it sounds horrofic. I wish someone like MOV or Sundazed would give it a shot.
The version of Screamadelica that I have is from MoV, and it sounds great.
So they did release it! Thank for the info. I will have to catch that one at some point.
My Matthew Sweet reissues sound great!
There has been more than one pressing of Screamadelica on MOV, I have a yellow vinyl pressing that was produced exclusively for FNAC and I believe there's also a red vinyl pressing as well as the standard black.
My MoV, as reference:
Lucinda Williams | Car Wheels... likely the best of the bunch
Afghan Whigs | Black Love
Tragically Hip | Road Apples (no where close to my original MCA copy of Up To Here)
Yo Yo Ma | Soul of the Tango
Allman Brothers Band | 2nd Set
Rodrigo Y Gabriela con C.U.B.A. | Area 52
I don't believe any are from original stampers.
All of these are from original stampers:
RATM - ST
RATM - Evil Empire
RATM - Battle of LA
RATM - Renegades
Jeff Buckley - Sketches
Screaming Trees - Dust
Kula Shaker - Peasants, pigs and astronauts
These are at the top of my head, I think there are some more I have...
Separate names with a comma.