Musical, Fun Cartridge Recommendation

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by avanti1960, Mar 9, 2023.

  1. Erocka2000

    Erocka2000 Forum Resident

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    Now you have to try the Auditorium 23 SUT for the Denon and take it up another notch! ;)
     
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  2. Boltman92124

    Boltman92124 Go Padres!!

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    This is what I was thinking of getting next. I could use an OM stylus but would that take the fun out of it? I want the high output and extra bass slam! Was eyeing the "Vibe" cart.
     
  3. Seafinch

    Seafinch Preferred Patron

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    I know! I have a local buddy waiting on one. When it arrives we’ll try it here too. I know it’s widely accepted that the a23 is the best for the 103, but this HM-3 pairing is pretty magic!
     
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  4. I'd like to see better QC and more attention to quiet record materials, but I haven't seen a record pressing plant that didn't look like an industrial factory nor have I seen records pressed in a clean room. I just got a newly pressed record that was pressed by Third Man Records, I believe it might have been a "Blue Note" current re-issue and I was really impressed with the quality. It was as good, but probably better than the ones pressed by QRP.
     
  5. FalseMetal666

    FalseMetal666 Forum Resident

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    I had a chance to A/B the A23 and HM-3 for a bit; the A23 won but not by much!
     
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  6. Seafinch

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    Nice. You remember what the differences were?
     
  7. FalseMetal666

    FalseMetal666 Forum Resident

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    Imaging was the main thing, as I recall. A23 had the edge in width and depth, emphasized the 103’s euphonic presentation. Felt like the HM-3 was more precise, maybe? But flattened things dimensionally.

    I still kinda wish I’d kept the Hashimotos as well, though.
     
  8. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    sounds like the right recipe, thanks !
     
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  9. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Sea,
    The LH18H only has 2 positions for the cartridge- this worked OK on your G for proper alignment?
     
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  10. Davey

    Davey NP: Hania Rani/Dobrawa Czocher ~ Inner Symphonies

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    That style has a screw to clamp the headshell part to the the connector barrel, so you can move it for azimuth and overhang...


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  11. Seafinch

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    like @Davey said, there’s a screw on the barrel that allows you to fine tune overhang.
     
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  12. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    thanks gents.
     
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  13. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict Look what I found

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    Tony, what did you end up getting, if anything?

    I mounted the 301 mkii for the first time in a while, for the money it still has to be one of the most musical / detailed cartridges going. ( I got mine for $280 a few years back, they've of course gone up.

    Not sure it has the fun / sizzle factor you might be after, but musical it is! I've always been impressed what this delivers for the money. I think they're over $400 these days, so that would leave something left over for a nice digital cable. :)

    Anyway wouldn't have sought your thread out if I wasn't impressed (again) with the 301 mkii, it's definitely on par with the mid ranged AT's I have (AT33's, OC9's variants) musically. Doesn't get the press it should methinkst.
     
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  14. Davey

    Davey NP: Hania Rani/Dobrawa Czocher ~ Inner Symphonies

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    $330 from 2juki, but yea, $449 retail in the US now. Denon cartridge prices here have just about doubled in the last few years. I've never heard one, but know there are quite a few fans here, it fared very well in the big under $1000 MC poll here.
     
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  15. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict Look what I found

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    The $280 I quoted above was from 2juki also :) bought in like 2018 I think...
     
  16. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict Look what I found

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    Plus, at I think 22cu @10Hz, it would make a nice match if you thought your tonearm was in the 9G EM range to boot...(the 301)
     
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  17. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict Look what I found

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    BTW, your post made me go find that poll again -- I noticed I didn't vote, and when I thought about it again, I came to the same conclusion "how can I pick just one?" Maybe my curse is I own too many of 'em, and it would have been easier if I owned one, and picked that one which is probably more common... :)

    Hana SL sure fared well too, one I have to try. (or the EL).
     
  18. Davey

    Davey NP: Hania Rani/Dobrawa Czocher ~ Inner Symphonies

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    I think maybe some of you take these polls a bit too seriously. It's just for fun, you aren't being asked to make a long term commitment :)
     
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  19. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict Look what I found

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    Thanks Dad. :)

    And no, I don't take too many things that seriously, trust me, especially your poll.
     
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  20. Davey

    Davey NP: Hania Rani/Dobrawa Czocher ~ Inner Symphonies

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    Hehe, I'll give you three picks on my next poll, like I did on the big SUT poll.
     
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  21. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict Look what I found

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    With an all of the above option!!
     
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  22. Spooky

    Spooky Forum Resident

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    Just seeing this thread and so there is likely more discussion on this after your post here but…

    In MY experience, the Denon does more than fine with a “medium” mass tone arm. Truly. I think many of those that weigh in on the absolute need for a high mass arm are just regurgitating what they’ve heard elsewhere. I’m sure some have experienced differences but I 100% think it is not gospel. Must be very table dependent.

    I have a Pioneer PLX-1000. Stock arm. Obviously very similar to the Technics table. Have owned a Denon 103R for a couple years now. For the longest time I used it with the headshell weight and aux counterweight. Sounded great. Then I switched over to a Nag MP-200 for many months.

    Then for some reason a couple weeks ago I decided to try the Denon WITHOUT the extra weights. And guess what?!? It sounded the same if not just a smidge better. (Normal caveats apply “IMO”, “to my ears”, “on my system”, “in my room”, etc).

    Don’t be afraid to try one of these out on a “less than ideal” tone arm.
     
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  23. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Not yet Tim, I may have come to my senses. I lost sight of the value in buying a cartridge that will not sound as good as the one I use on a daily basis.
     
  24. TheVinylAddict

    TheVinylAddict Look what I found

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    Not an overly surprising conclusion... hard to argue that.
     
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