Neil Young's lead guitar playing...

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  1. Paul Gase

    Paul Gase Everything is cheaper than it looks.

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    I’ve seen/heard several shredder types play NY songs and I gotta say the solos are almost always awkwardly out of place, uncomfortably so. His playing style is so intrinsic to his songs. On the other hand, many of his tunes are fun to jam on, but approaching with a less is more style usually works best. You don’t have to play like Neil to excel playing on a Neil song, but cutting the number of notes and riffs (and speed) in half certainly helps.

    His long jams? Well, when he captures lightning in a bottle, it’s hard to beat. The last minute of Hurricane (the record) is pretty amazing in its climax and wind-down, but it’s totally unplanned. When it’s great, watch out. When it’s not, it’s tedious. He’s got a few standby go-to techniques to ramp up a song. Sometimes they work; sometimes they don’t.

    One thing I loved about Television was on a “jam” like Marquee Moon... there is lot of room for free form spontaneity, but it does have a fully formed climax. So even if they head down any type of rabbit hole, good or bad, they can dig out and emerge kind of victorious, so cool is the climax piece of that song.

    Neil doesn’t have that. So you are at the mercy of the magic simply happening. And, after 15 minutes, if it ain’t happened, it probably ain’t gonna ever happen. I think David Briggs used to be quite pointed in his remarks to Neil about his playing and where he was going with it. It probably helped a lot.
     
  2. Paul Gase

    Paul Gase Everything is cheaper than it looks.

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    NY and Crazy Horse at their best are unbridled and they really do exhibit some kind of grace. It’s a thing of rock and roll beauty. The Powderfinger on Rust Never Sleeps is astonishing. It might be my favorite piece of rock and roll, ever. It’s moving. Neil’s solos are exquisite, but so too are Ralph’s drum and cymbal work. And the band just coalesces.

    But, you know, they can play like untrained monkeys the next minute. Compare Reactor to Rust. Same band. Different results. But I take the good with the bad, because the good is so good.

    I like technically proficient bands that play with passion, too, don’t get me wrong. But I always thought Neil and Crazy Horse was just always cool. A T-shirt that I would always wear with honor.
     
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  3. elaterium

    elaterium Forum Resident

    I cant stop laughing at this. It’s so demented.
     
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  4. PacificOceanBlue

    PacificOceanBlue Senior Member

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    Neil is a unique, distinctive, talented guitarist. I remember taking lessons and my instructor (who is very accomplished and has played and collaborated with some major, established artists) said Neil's playing was very intricate and somewhat complex when I asked about learning On The Way Home. That was actually a bit eye-opening and put things in perspective.
     
  5. DTK

    DTK Forum Resident

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    Nope.
     
  6. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    In a list of the best 100 guitarists in Rolling Stone magazine in 2015, Young was ranked no. 17 by a panel of top guitarists. So among his peers (not named George Harrison), he seems to be held in very high regard.

    100 Greatest Guitarists
     
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  7. redfloatboat

    redfloatboat Forum Resident

    Love his lead playing and would love to sound like him. All the squeaks, feedback and strange noises he makes with a guitar are wonderful.
    Get sick of people criticizing his playing though, theres always the inevitable 'one note' comment on this subject.
     
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  8. coot

    coot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Even Neil would take the top 20....:shh::righton:
     
  9. PhilBorder

    PhilBorder Senior Member

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    Yeah, this thread also made me think about Television. two guitarists that seriously studied their instruments (and practiced!), and Lloyd having a depth of knowledge about music theory (Verlaine might too but he'd never let on...) In the unlikely event Television would cover some of the Neil safaris mentioned here, I think it would change some folks perceptions. Their solos are inspired and even reckless, but there's always a logical musical foundation. If you like Neil, you'd probably really like this:

     
  10. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    Young Eric Clapton?

    Yeah, I suspect having a panel of the world’s best guitarists put you at #17 takes away some of the sting of Hoffman Forum members calling you an amateur. :D
     
  11. John Grimes

    John Grimes Forum Resident

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    You lost me with hella.
     
  12. ARK

    ARK Forum Miscreant

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    Regarding Duane’s comments on Neil, it helps to remember that Neil didn’t peak until 20 years after Duane passed.
     
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  13. Michael

    Michael I LOVE WIDE S-T-E-R-E-O!

    he does what the song needs and it's always perfect...I absolutely love his acoustic work ...his little dingles between chords always hit the mark...
     
  14. Zack

    Zack Senior Member

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    Funny you should say that. And you know, it took me years of childhood to figure out John from Paul so I may just be dumb in this regard. Distinct as Neil seems to be on his own records, I still have trouble sorting out what's what between him and Stills on their collaborative efforts. Recently thinking about that as I played the 1974 CSNY tour CD's.
     
  15. Zack

    Zack Senior Member

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    I see a long SHTV thread in these three sentences from Duane Allman on Neil.
     
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  16. Kingsley Fats

    Kingsley Fats Forum Resident

    Neil Young's lead guitar playing.....is a million times more interesting & listenable than anything Eddie Van Halen & his shredder followers have ever done.
     
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  17. Adrian Adkins

    Adrian Adkins Forum Resident

    One of my Faves is his playing on Pushed it over the End by csny the Italian single recording,
     
  18. Crimson jon

    Crimson jon Forum Resident

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    Yes being just a casual fan I was amazed at his tone and playing style live at the desert trip festival 2016 at Coachella. I was tripping a little harder than I thought I would and he had these tepees on stage and his band looked like wild west characters or something. Was a fantastic concert and his leads were like grunge and classic rock together. Made me a fan.
     
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  19. coot

    coot Forum Resident Thread Starter



    Right but" Comes a Time", " Harvest moon", "Old Man" etc comprise 70% + or minus most are on the softer side. His songs as a balladeer have been his bread and butter thus the "small sample size where he plays a lead. I know however he would rather be remembered as a ROCKER:wantsome:
     
  20. Rne

    Rne weltschmerz

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    Neil has an immediately recognizable tone and style and he has managed to create astounding guitar solos without being what is usually considered a virtuoso. He plays passionately and can get a lot from a single note.
     
  21. tug_of_war

    tug_of_war Unable to tolerate bass solos

    100% AGREED :righton:
     
  22. Chemguy

    Chemguy Forum Resident

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    70%? Where’d you pull that gloriously inaccurate stat out from?

    Balladeer? His bread and butter? What the...?

    What did you do...listen to two Neil Young albums for the first time last week and post this nonsense?

    Ok, I’m done...and I feel better.
     
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  23. coot

    coot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Clueless in Alberta ...Plus or minus is ball park figure ...:laughup: oh, and stay away from all that yellow snow.:biglaugh:
     
  24. applebonkerz

    applebonkerz Senior Member

    I agree with George...and did even before I learned he felt that way too. I believe Clapton does as well. :shrug:
     
  25. coot

    coot Forum Resident Thread Starter

    love ballads from the 2000's to help jog your memory .....notice no electric guitar with seven minute guitar solos.
    You should already know all this:doh: ,,,Neil's Canadian you know :wiggle:

    Neil Young - Introspection -1970s Love Ballads (played live in the 2000s)
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