New DAC Is Amazing

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Rattlin' Bones, Sep 17, 2021.

  1. Rattlin' Bones

    Rattlin' Bones Grumpy Old Deaf Drummer Thread Starter

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    Take it to the Music Forum, mates. Talking DACs here.

    QUOTE="jeffmackwood, post: 27814959, member: 76816"]That version is available on Spotify and there's six (6) Massey Hall tracks on it: Mothers Talk, Broken / Head Over Heels, Memories Fade, The Working Hour, Everybody Wants to Rule the World, and Shout. Not a bad selection from the thirteen tracks available on the stand-alone Massey Hall album.

    Jeff[/QUOTE]
     
  2. jeffmackwood

    jeffmackwood Forum Resident

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    Ottawa
    Boy! Do those Tears for Fears Massey Hall tracks available on Spotify... ever sound good through my Schiit Modi 3+ DAC!

    :)

    Jeff
     
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  3. Stone Turntable

    Stone Turntable Dedicated Follower of Hi-Fi

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    I wasn't making at dig at your DACs price (it's about what I paid for my Schiit Modi Multibit), although I am a bit leery of the "amazing" part of your thread title, apart from the fact that you're loving what your hearing, which is great!
     
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  4. toddrhodes

    toddrhodes Forum Resident

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    South Bend, IN
    I've heard not subtle improvements from my previous DAC, retail of about $3k, up to my current DAC which retails for $5600. It's hard to textualize, but I know what I hear and it's not hard to hear a difference.

    So now I'm going the total opposite way and will be putting in a $299 DAC this week, to see how it does. All three will be on the same, level playing field, being fed from a renderer at DSD256, upsampled via HQ Player.

    So I don't question whether there are differences. There are - it's the nature of advancements in digital audio these days (and have little to do with "measurements") and what manufacturers are willing to do to chase that last nth percentile of increased realism and sound quality and for a trite term, retaining "musicality."

    Whether or not those difference matter to someone, or most especially if those differences are worth the price difference? That's not a debate. That's a personal decision.
     
  5. HIRES_FAN

    HIRES_FAN Forum Resident

    LOL....dude, my coffee spilt in 360 degrees when i saw this...
     
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  6. Rattlin' Bones

    Rattlin' Bones Grumpy Old Deaf Drummer Thread Starter

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    New DAC spinning even better through Rega Elex-R integrated. Listening to a Live at the Lighthouse (jazz) playlist
     
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  7. Rattlin' Bones

    Rattlin' Bones Grumpy Old Deaf Drummer Thread Starter

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    Louisville, KY
    New DAC has some hours on it now. Listening to Richard Goode Beethoven Sonatas tonite. Disc 7 on right now. Up until I purchased the JDS EL DAC II I was mostly disappointed in digital versions of piano pieces. Happy to say Beethoven by Goode is sounding just wonderful. A lot of nuances. And the piano sounds open not congested and restricted. It's a very wonderful experience.
     
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  8. Cherrycherry

    Cherrycherry Forum Resident

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    Congratulations finding something you like
     
  9. daglesj

    daglesj Forum Resident

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    I'm enjoying the noises coming from my GF's Topping DAC I got her a few weeks ago. As per usual she cannot tell the difference. I have to admit my evaluation is "it sounds perfectly nice!"

    This is sorted tech. My advice, buy at the bottom and work up. You may find audio nirvana starting at $150 rather than starting at $5000.
     
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  10. shug4476

    shug4476 Nullius In Verba

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    London
    Surprisingly there is still a lot of variation in the technical performance of DACs and players etc. Signal to noise ratio varies a lot. 'Noisy' DACs still exist!

    In theory what you want is a SNR wide enough to capture the full dynamic range of the source which in turn depends on its bit depth.

    This is seldom achieved in practice as the range of 24bit greatly exceeds what typical DACs and (especially) amplifiers can achieve.

    Does any of this matter subjectively? I used to think so but then I owned a Sugden A21a amp, which measures appallingly but is one of the most beautiful sounding bits of kit I've ever owned. Same viz Rega amps where the SNR is pretty poor but they are extremely involving.

    That being said, if I change the DACs in my system I can consistently and reliably identify which is playing and which I prefer. I haven't made up my mind basically!
     
  11. LakeMountain

    LakeMountain Vinyl surfer

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    Sounds like and interesting test! Did you compare the three DACs and what were your findings?
     
  12. Rattlin' Bones

    Rattlin' Bones Grumpy Old Deaf Drummer Thread Starter

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    Louisville, KY
    Problem with trial and error is, depending on return fees and restocking shipping etc, you may end up spending more.

    I think I am there with my DAC now. If I were 100% satisfied with my phono pre I'd be in total Nirvana heaven.

     
  13. Rattlin' Bones

    Rattlin' Bones Grumpy Old Deaf Drummer Thread Starter

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    Louisville, KY
    Yes thanks!!!

    Piano is kinda my main test of a component. It's such a difficult instrument to record, and to play back. Most any kit will play something like sax well. Brass, if recorded and mastered well, is easier, too. Then you get to more difficult instruments --- guitar, voice, and piano. And if you're a drummer like I am, you're often frustrated trying to pick out the ride cymbal in a small jazz ensemble and it's wash, stick sound, and decay.

    Hearing the piano sparkle on sonatas where there isn't anything in mix except the piano was a real treat with the JDS EL DAC II. That sealed the deal for me. It has over a month's worth of use now; many many hours of play and even more just being on 24x for days at a time.

     
  14. daglesj

    daglesj Forum Resident

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    Norfolk, UK
    Well most of them are on Amazon...
     
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