New integrated amp for B&W 804D D3

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Bert Oz, Nov 9, 2019.

  1. Bert Oz

    Bert Oz Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Thank you, and for your personal recommendation. I love the silver but the rest of my system is in black so that's what I went with. I think both finishes look epic and love the piano black paint on the sides.
    Can't wait to set it up in my room.
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  2. Doc Savage

    Doc Savage New Member

    So, how does it sound? I am debating buying the same setup for my living room, which isn't small, but it's also not huge.
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  3. Bert Oz

    Bert Oz Well-Known Member Thread Starter

    Hi Doc.
    Apologies for the delay in getting back to you. Still working full time (school teacher) throughout the lock down in the UK so quite busy. Fully appreciate that I'm still getting paid when so many are losing their jobs or furloughed.
    On to the amp and speakers......My room is 17 foot by 14 foot so not small nor huge either. The new B&W speakers sounded great driven by the Rega Elex but the Yamaha really shows what they are capable of. Some here said the Yamaha would not have enough power to drive the B&Ws well but I have found it ample, normal listening is generally between 9.00 and 10.00 o clock on the volume dial.

    I'm no reviewer but agree with most of the reviews I've seen of the B&W and Yamaha. Highlights for me are the level of detail, soundstage (width and depth) and midrange (vocals sound fantastic). Bass is good but I found pulling the speakers out 3.5 foot to get the best soundstage did reduce the bass somewhat. I have always wanted to try a subwoofer since so many in this forum swear by them so got the matching B&W. Wow, not just better bass but seems to fill everthing out. Subtle but turn it off and you notice.

    The amp is big, oozes quality and seems built like a tank. Drives the speakers beautifully and although you won't miss any detail in the music I've found it silky smooth. I can listen quite happily for hours. Phono stage seems good for my modest turntable. Love the meters but my only wish would be a dimmer as they throw quite a lot of light. I think the new model has this facility.

    I would very much recommend the B&W 804D and Yamaha A-S3000. For me it's a great combination and I can't think of anything I'd change about the sound I have now. However at these prices (at least for me) you really have to audition as the sound may not be to your taste.

    Even after quite a few months I still really look forward to getting home and playing some tunes. I seriously haven't thought about changing anything in my system for months (although interested to see what thoughts are on the A-S3000 replacement). It would have to be a massive improvement to make me think about trading up though.
    Happy to answer any more specific questions about this combo Doc.
  4. Hollowsanctuary

    Hollowsanctuary Well-Known Member

    Glad you are working and enjoying your music too! I will have to look into this Yamaha amp. Do you know if it has HT bypass?

    I am hoping to demo a McIntosh (MA8900) soon. It’s a lot of money but since i”m spending so much time at home, and will not vacation this year, I can justify it.
  5. caracallac

    caracallac Forum Resident

    I’d second Richard’s recommendation of the Accuphase. Last year I visited my dealer’s shop and he had the 804d3’s running with an Accuphase e470 integrated. A very nice combination in my opinion.
  6. lonelysea

    lonelysea Forum Crustacean

    Twin Peaks, WA
    I’m wondering the same thing. My 3000 is not yet a year old but I’m really curious about the 3200. I’m guessing the difference/improvement won’t be massive, but even a minor but noticeable improvement in sound quality is really intriguing to me!
  7. kjhawkm

    kjhawkm Forum Resident

    Dallas, TX
    I have the A-S3000's little brother the A-S1100 and it does have HT Bypass. The input is called "Main Direct" which bypasses the internal pre amp. Going even further, I love that when you turn the amp into the On / Standby position and have it connected to your A/V receiver's trigger out (in my case also a Yamaha), then the A-S series integrateds will turn on/off automatically when the a/v receiver is turned on/off. Since I am using my a/v receiver for watching Netflix, etc and using it as an Airplay DAC, it means that I only have to turn on one component and it's great. This was one of the only integrated amps I found with a trigger input. Most have a trigger output.
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  8. G B Kuipers

    G B Kuipers Forum Resident

    Would you estimate the chance of improvement in a new model to be higher than 50%?

    Because I'd say, if you love the current 3000, any change they would make to the circuit design could just as easily result in a (perceived) decrease in your listening pleasure.
  9. lonelysea

    lonelysea Forum Crustacean

    Twin Peaks, WA
    As I’ve said in other threads; I believe Yamaha takes these upgrades seriously. I don’t think they’d make changes that would drastically or even noticeably alter their amps’ presentation in a negative way.
    Although there’s only one way to find out...

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