New Line Magnetic 508ia Integrated Amp

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by GoldprintAudio, May 20, 2016.

  1. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    Hello Thomas
    Have you tried the Melz 6N9S (6SL7) on the LM508?

    If so, can you give me your opinon on these?
     
  2. SlawDawg

    SlawDawg Active Member

    Location:
    CentralVA
    Hello,
    After reading from the side lines and owning the 805ia for sometime now... I'm curious to know what speakers you all are using?
     
  3. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State
    6n9s sounds sweet with clean treble and details.
    They can be had around 60$ pair.
    One may try them at small risk.
     
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  4. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    Check the profiles. The answer is usually there.
     
  5. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    Hello Thomas
    How do you find the United 805 vs the ACME 805 now that some time has passed and maybe burning time changed United's sound?

    Are they worthwile?

    By the way, have you tried United vs Cossor 805?
     
  6. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    I've just test the Psvane 805 ACMEs against the AT-II on my LM-508.

    Well, I wish I didnt! The difference is very big. The ACMEs are much more refined, with better base, more life, less grain, etc. More engaging. On another league, as their price suggest!

    Still the AT-II are a considerably leap forward from the stock tubes and I guess they must be about 70-75% of the ACMEs at 1/4 of the price.

    Anyone of you consider United 805 to be close to the ACMEs?? I ask because they can be bought half the price. Anyone???
     
  7. bilbs

    bilbs Member

    Location:
    Australia
    Hi,

    Was seriously considering purchasing one of these, and was wondering how much roughly the power tubes cost to replace? I listen to my stereo a couple of hours every day, so was trying to weigh up if the replacement cost is going to be prohibitive.

    Cheers,
    Jack
     
  8. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    Wich one are you considering purchasing? The ACMEs?
     
  9. jmpsmash

    jmpsmash Forum Resident

    Location:
    Santa Clara, CA
    Depends on which one you plan to get. You can get a pair of 805 tubes from $200 to $800 (or more!) a couple hours a day is less than 1000 hours a year. A pair will last you a few years.
     
  10. tIANcI

    tIANcI Wondering when the hifi madness will end

    Location:
    Malaysia
    @jmpsmash ... how many hours would you say the stock power tubes are good for?
     
  11. jmpsmash

    jmpsmash Forum Resident

    Location:
    Santa Clara, CA
    Actually, I don't know. My amp is a used (I think I am the 3rd owner). During burn in of my various upgrade, I have them on for 24/7 for days and they show no drop in bias current. So extrapolate from that, it should be thousands of hours.
     
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  12. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    I've just tried one NOS Brimar 6SL7 and all I can say is WOW!!! What a f.. AWESOME tube! Even without any burning time whatsoever!

    I liked very very much the Sylvania VT229 (wich is a very well regarded tube here), but this one is on another league. Incredible!! The sound is everywhere, completly detached from the speakers, rich tone, super fast, completely black background, sweet.... just BEAUTIFUL.

    In some forums people compares very well Brimar to Mullard as both are British. I really don't know as I never tried Mullard, but I paid about 20 U$S here in Argentina for this one, NOS brand new, that after trying one, I bought another one right away!!!

    If anyone is willing to try it, I guess they can also be found pretty cheap on ebay. And if someone trys it againts a Mullard 6SL7, I'm all ears!

    Totally totally recomended for the price.

    Here is the image of the valve (I have NO idea of the year of production as it's not mentioned anywhere):


    [​IMG]
     
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  13. AP1

    AP1 Forum Resident

    Location:
    TX
    In 805 tubes (and similar 845/211) the main failure mode is not a loss of emission, but filament breakage. That will more depend on number of on-off cycles than on total operating hours.
     
  14. adamaley

    adamaley Forum Resident

    I gave my impression of this tube a few pages back. I'm glad you like it.
     
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  15. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    I'm sorry, I missed it. What page?
     
  16. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State
    P59
     
  17. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State
    Since I do not have socket saver for 805 tube socket, I do not change 805 tubes as often as 6sn7 or 6sl7.

    If I want to do shootout, I need to go back and forth to confirm initial impression.

    But I will not do that on 805 without socket saver.

    I will let RCA 805 stay for one month to get long term impression.

    Thus I can not give definite opinion on either United vs Cossor 805 although I think they are much better than stock tubes.

    But my favorite is Acme 805 with nuanced texture.

    Recently its price had gone down to 716$

    Psvane Vacuum tube & Amplifiers

    After I paid 870$ on Acme 805 32 months ago, it had lasted 3500 hours without problem.
     
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  18. IGD Positive

    IGD Positive Forum Resident

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    Inner groove
    For those of you that have used 805 tubs that need the anode cable, how did you remove the little plastic piece where you're supposed to plug in the cable? They both seem really tight and I don't want to mess anything up.
     
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  19. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    @jmpsmash should be able to answer that one as he had to remove them as well.
     
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  20. Ontheone

    Ontheone Poorly Understood Member

    Location:
    Indianapolis
    Don't try to pry the red part out - that's the jack you will plug the wire into. Only the black tip comes out, and it comes out easily by just gently sliding a small flat blade screwdriver under it. If you turned the amp upside down I'm sure it would drop out on it's own. It's under no tension to speak of.

    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  21. jmpsmash

    jmpsmash Forum Resident

    Location:
    Santa Clara, CA
    Ontheone has the correct way.

    Embarrasingly that took me a while to figure out... :crazy:
     
  22. IGD Positive

    IGD Positive Forum Resident

    Location:
    Inner groove
    Awesome. I'll do this later and report back. Thank you!
     
  23. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    Hello guys,
    Does anyone of you know if these Sylvania 6SN7 valves are good?

    I found them at a very good price here. There's information on the label of the box and on the pictures:


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    Thank you!!
     
  24. Pedro Guillemain

    Pedro Guillemain PLGA

    Location:
    Argentina
    Here is more legible the label on the box:


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    They have chrome top. Does it mean anything?
     
  25. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State
    They are 6sl7 not 6sn7.

    In general Nos 6sl7 are cheaper than Nos 6sn7 due to less demand.

    If you want to try 6sn7 other than Black treasure 181 at reasonable cost, you may try 6n8s at 48$ per pair.

    6N8S (6SN7, ECC32) Tubes MELZ Nos | eBay
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2020

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