New Looney Tunes shorts on HBO Max

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  1. He's dethpickable.
     
  2. Spaghettiows

    Spaghettiows Forum Resident

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    This looks very intriguing, although I am more partial to the Chuck Jones style than the Bob Clampett style of animation for these characters, not that both of them don't have their charms. I am hoping that both of their styles are incorporated, not to mention Bob McKimson and Friz Freleng. I would hope to see homage to all of them.

    Also, I wonder if this might coincide with making all of the old shorts available for streaming.
     
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  3. keefer1970

    keefer1970 Metal, Movies, Beer!

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    That new voice guy is not too shabby. His Daffy sounds like vintage Mel Blanc to my ears.

    Visually these toons don't look quite the same as the golden oldies, but they're definitely in the same spirit.

    I say "bring it on."
     
  4. Ghostworld

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    I don't think it looks hand draw like the old cartoons. everything looks neat and compressed. the old ones had more fluidity and stretch.
     
  5. Strat-Mangler

    Strat-Mangler Personal Survival Daily Record-Breaker

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    Agreed. There's no doubt in my mind that it's computer animated with some drawings used as the building blocks.

    The old cartoons had that special magic. Unless they're willing to do things the old-school way, it won't actually look the same, though I appreciate the attempts regardless. Those shorts cost anywhere between 500K and a million back then! So I can only imagine how many millions it'd cost to do it in-house today.
     
  6. Gill-man

    Gill-man Forum Resident

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    I don’t know if I’d call it sophisticated...

    Be careful what you wish for. We don’t want Adult Swim, Family Guy, or South Park starring Looney Tunes characters. Those are what define adult oriented animation today.
     
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  7. All Rights

    All Rights Senior Member

    In 1944 Elmer Fudd told us in "The Old Grey Hare" that we would get Smellevision in the year 2000.

    19 years later, still waiting WB.
     
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  8. Tim Lookingbill

    Tim Lookingbill Alfalfa Male

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    Bugs Bunny saying "What a maroon" is referencing a misspoken insult that was known to be spoken with the word "m0r0n" by New York street tough kids similar to the Bowery Boys movies of the '40's & '50's. Bugs Bunny deliberately mispronounces the insult, m0ron, as maroon as an inside joke to poke fun at those class of street kid's lack of education that they pronounce the word "m0r0n" incorrectly. That's how I interpreted it and feel is quite sophisticated in its social referencing to a class of people.
     
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  9. PaulKTF

    PaulKTF Senior Member

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    And yes, I know the shorts from the 30's-50's were aimed at adults and not kids but these days are long over. :)
     
  10. PaulKTF

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    Then I would really smell the stink instead of just seeing it on modern TV shows. :)
     
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  11. This just made my day! I have loved Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies since I could toddle way back in the mid-60's This looks like it is going to be a great addition to that legacy rather than merely an homage.
     
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  12. GreenDrazi

    GreenDrazi Truth is beauty

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    I agree that the visuals are very promising and hope that the out of character breakneck pacing was just due to this being a promo.
     
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  13. AKA

    AKA Senior Member Thread Starter

  14. Steve Litos

    Steve Litos Senior Member

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    Not bad!
     
  15. AKA

    AKA Senior Member Thread Starter

     
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  16. AKA

    AKA Senior Member Thread Starter

     
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  17. Scooterpiety

    Scooterpiety Ars Gratia Artis

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    Is the first WB cartoon to ever show a toilet?
     
  18. AKA

    AKA Senior Member Thread Starter

     
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  19. 200 Motels

    200 Motels Forum Resident

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    Watched the first episode this morning. Very good animation and voice acting! I am impressed. Look forward to checking out more and the new HBO Max service!

    This new Looney Tunes seems like a remake done the right way :)
     
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  20. finslaw

    finslaw muzak to my ears

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    I am going on record here to say that The Looney Tunes Show is up there with Seinfeld and Dick Van Dyke as my favorite sitcom of all time. The reinterpretation of Gossamer, Cecil, Porky, Speedy, Pete, Hazel and Yosemite may have upset some diehards, but IMO they hilariously fleshed out some one dimensional characters. Daffy and Lola stole every scene they were in, the absolute cornerstones of the show. The only bad episode was the one where only the secondary characters were featured. Otherwise I recommend as a point of entry the episode where Bugs loses his patented gloves, the ending is loaded with the bizarre logic that made up the best shorts.

    Otherwise I feel the short Looney Tunes made these days try to cram in too much. Sure, you have only 7 minutes, but that was the perfect amount of time for the characters, plot, atmosphere and gags of something like The Abominable Snow Rabbit. Plus these shorts often feel done by committee, whereas the best ones of the past were a team effort lead by an animating genius who managed to put their twisted humor stamp on their shorts despite not animating everything. I want more surrealism, and I don't want a bunch of pratfalls/slapstick with a score that hammers home every single gesture.

    How about instead of creating new shorts, releasing ones that continue to be unreleased, like Racketeer Rabbit, or Beanstalk Bunny. The lack of the latter is beyond me.
     
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  21. cloggedmind

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    These aren't bad. Not cringe-worthy like that Looney Tunes Show that had things like Elmer and the Grilled Cheese..

    But, I can't come to grips with the new productions for nitpicky reasons.

    There's an immediacy missing from these new creations. The soundtracks seem too polished, spacious and vintage sound effects tend to get dialed down and sound quite low-fi, if you will. And.. I will if you will.

    I hear the punchy mono soundtracks of the original WB shorts as something like:
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    ..with voices and fx all amped up and like, "Whomp!"

    And the new cartoons have a more calm feel, more spread out and just a bit on the "cavernous" side. Sorta like: ((((((((((((((((((((((((( ! )))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Mel Blanc said a few times that the old cartoons sounded the way they did b/c the audio was set up and recorded quickly during breaks on sound stages where films were being shot. Photos from the era seem to back that up. Maybe that's the element of "immediacy" that is missing for me?

    Oh, and Sylvester's thloppy thpeech ithh mothhtly in the front of hith mouthh, like thithh!
    There'sch a bit choo much jaw clensching in the charactcherishashion above that addshh choo much Daffy in the mixthth!

    Pardon me for protruding.
     
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  22. It fit the pace of the music.
     
  23. Spaghettiows

    Spaghettiows Forum Resident

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    These aren't bad, but If HBO Max wants me to subscribe, they'll need to offer all of the original Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies shorts, unedited. I have the Boomerang app for this very reason, but not all of the shorts are available, including some of the best ones. Also, the picture quality is uneven. Many appear fully restored, but many look faded/worn. Also, there are the usual old Saturday Morning edits for content.
     
  24. cloggedmind

    cloggedmind Doctor Do-Very-Little

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    Now, there's a funny thing. ADD animation may go even further back, but the first time I actually noticed the new, break-neck speed animation was in the Disney flick "Aladdin":


    They's a lot goin' on there..
     
  25. AKA

    AKA Senior Member Thread Starter

    Here's what's currently available on HBO Max. As far as I can tell, they're all in HD, including some shorts that were previously on Boomerang in subpar quality. Obviously, it's not everything, but it's a much wider selection than I remember Boomerang having.


    1930s:
    Smile, Darn Ya, Smile! (1931)
    Hollywood Capers (1935)
    I Haven’t Got a Hat (1935)
    The Blow Out (1936)
    Alpine Antics (1936)
    Porky’s Poultry Plant (1936)
    Porky’s Railroad (1937)
    Pigs Is Pigs (1937)
    She Was an Acrobat’s Daughter (1937)
    The Daffy Doc (1938)
    Porky’s Poppa (1938)
    Now That Summer Is Gone (1938)
    The Night Watchman (1938)
    Chicken Jitters (1939)
    Daffy Duck and the Dinosaur (1939)
    Sniffles and the Bookworm (1939)
    The Film Fan (1939)

    1940:
    Patient Porky
    Prehistoric Porky
    Elmer’s Candid Camera
    The Bear’s Tale
    Porky’s Poor Fish
    Sniffles Takes a Trip
    A Gander at Mother Goose
    The Egg Collector
    Bedtime for Sniffles

    1941:
    Porky’s Pooch
    Tortoise Beats Hare
    Toy Trouble
    The Trial of Mr. Wolf
    Farm Frolics
    The Heckling Hare
    The Brave Little Bat
    Rookie Recue
    Sniffles Bells the Cat
    Rhapsody in Rivets
    Wabbit Twouble

    1942:
    Eatin’ on the Cuff
    Wacky Blackout
    Conrad the Sailor
    The Wabbit Who Came to Supper
    The Wacky Wabbit
    The Draft Horse
    Hold the Lion, Please
    Bugs Bunny Gets the Boid
    The Hep Cat

    1943:
    The Aristo-Cat
    Pigs in a Polka
    Tortoise Wins by a Hare
    Super Rabbit
    Wackiki Wabbit
    A Corny Concerto
    Falling Hare
    Puss N’ Booty

    1944:
    Bugs Bunny and the Three Bears
    Duck Soup to Nuts
    Birdy and the Beast
    Buckaroo Bugs
    Booby Hatched
    The Old Grey Hare

    1945:
    Draftee Daffy
    Fresh Airedale
    The Bashful Buzzard

    1946:
    Baseball Bugs
    Holiday for Shoestrings
    Hush My Mouse
    Hollywood Daffy
    Acrobatty Bunny
    Rhapsody Rabbit
    Roughly Squeaking

    1947:
    Birth of a Notion
    Tweetie Pie
    Rabbit Transit
    The Up-Standing Sitter
    Crowing Pains
    Slick Hare

    1948:
    Dough Ray Me-ow
    Odor of the Day
    Gorilla My Dreams
    Hop, Look and Listen
    Buccaneer Bunny
    Bugs Bunny Rides Again
    Hot Cross Bunny
    House Hunting Mice
    The Foghorn Leghorn
    Back Alley Oproar
    The Stupor Salesman
    Scaredy Cat

    1949:
    Bowery Bugs
    Daffy Duck Hunt
    Often an Orphan
    Rabbit Hood
    Swallow the Leader
    The Windblown Hare
    Fast and Furry-ous

    1950:
    An Egg Scramble
    The Hypo-Chondri-Cat
    It’s Hummertime
    Strife with Father
    Home, Tweet Home
    Hurdy-Gurdy Hare

    1951:
    Rabbit Fire
    Rabbit Every Monday
    Corn Plastered
    Fair Haired Hare
    Cheese Chasers
    Lovelorn Leghorn
    A Bear for Punishment

    1952:
    Feed the Kitty
    Fool Coverage
    Oily Hare
    Operation Rabbit
    Rabbit Seasoning
    Foxy by Proxy
    Carrot Rabbit
    Beep, Beep
    The Hasty Hare
    Hoppy-Go-Lucky
    Going! Going! Gosh!
    Tree for Two

    1953:
    Upswept Hare
    Forward March Hare
    Kiss Me Cat
    Duck Amuck
    A Peck O’Trouble
    Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century
    Robot Rabbit

    1954:
    Baby Buggy Bunny
    Bell Hoppy
    Bugs and Thugs
    Design for Leaving
    Gone Batty
    No Barking
    Satan’s Waitin’
    Dog Pounded
    Feline Frame-Up
    No Parking Hare
    Claws for Alarm
    Devil May Dare
    Bewitched Bunny
    Stop! Look! And Hasten!

    1955:
    Heir-Conditioned
    Hyde and Hare
    All Fowled Up
    Sandy Claws
    The Hole Idea
    Ready, Set, Zoom!
    Dime to Retire
    Two Scent’s Worth
    Red Riding Hoodwinked
    Roman Legion-Hare
    One Froggy Evening

    1956:
    Broom-Stick Bunny
    Raw! Raw! Rooster!
    The Unexpected Pest
    Weasel Stop
    Gee Whiz-z-z-z-z-z-z
    Stupor Duck
    The Slap Hoppy Mouse
    A Star Is Bored
    The Honey-Mousers

    1957:
    Birds Anonymous
    Ducking the Devil
    Fox-Terror
    Steal Wool
    Scrambled Aches
    Go Fly a Kite
    Bedeviled Rabbit
    Cheese It, the Cat!

    1958:
    Hook, Line and Stinker
    Robin Hood and Daffy
    Hare-Way to the Stars

    1959:
    A Broken Leghorn
    The Cat’s Paw
    Really Scent

    1960:
    From Hare to Heir
    Goldimouse and the Three Cats
    Mouse and Garden

    1961:
    Birds of a Father
    Daffy’s Inn Trouble
    Hoppy Daze
    The Abominable Snow Rabbit
    Beep Prepared

    1962:
    Bill of Hare
    Fish and Slips
    Honey’s Money

    1963:
    Banty Raids
    Claws in the Lease
    The Million Hare
    Now Hear This
    Transylvania 6-5000

    1964:
    False Hare
    The Iceman Ducketh
    Nuts and Volts
    Freudy Cat

    1965:
    Suppressed Duck
    Boulder Wham!
    Highway Runnery
    Chaser on the Rocks

    1966:
    Shot and Bothered
    Out and Out Rout
    The Solid Tin Coyote
    Clippety Clobbered
    Sugar and Spies

    Other:
    The Duxorcist (1987)
    Chariots of Fur (1994)
    Superior Duck (1996)
    Duck Dodgers in Attack of the Drones (2005)
     
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