New Order 2015 remasters

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Ale200, Jan 17, 2019.

  1. Ale200

    Ale200 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Hello all!
    I don't think this has been discussed before, I want to know your opinion on the New Order 2015 remasters. Are they an improvement over the 2008 or the original CDs? Who mastered them? I think they haven't been released on CD to date, only through streaming services and download.
     
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  2. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Added compression.
    Get Ready was not remastered as part of this campaign.
    I wasn't a fan of the PC&L 2015 so I never went further.
    IMO grab the oldies. :)
     
  3. Ale200

    Ale200 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Wow, nobody else?
     
  4. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

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    I have the 2015 Singles remaster on CD, which I think sounds great, other than being a bit loud.
     
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  5. Marc Perman

    Marc Perman Forum Resident

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    Besides the Singles set, are the rest of the 2015 remasters streaming only? Truth be told I haven’t heard any of it, being happy as I am with the 2008 reissues on CD (very good), on LP (excellent) and OG vinyl (of course).
     
  6. Ale200

    Ale200 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    As far as I know, they're on available on Spotify, Deezer, Tidal, etc.
     
  7. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    Singles was a huge improvement in terms of SQ and actual track list (uses 7" versions) over the loudness war 2005 master.
     
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  8. Monosterio

    Monosterio Forum Resident

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    Yeah, I haven’t heard the original, but from what I’ve read the redo is better in every way.
     
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  9. fozl1986

    fozl1986 Forum Resident

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    I have all the 2015 remasters in hires 24/96. They've been remastered by Frank Arkwright.
    To my ears they sound better than the 2008 CD's. Especially Republic is a big improvement over the old CD.
     
  10. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Yeah, ain't the 2015's pretty... :D
    Total F^$@*'n hack job mastering...
    The Village
    [​IMG]
     
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  11. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    Agreed, I prefer the 2008 generally. They are louder than the 2008, they have more bottom end, but the top sounds slightly rolled off to me. Overall they don't have the thinness that most NO recordings previously had so i prefer them. The remastered singles is a definite improvement but by most Hoffmanite's standards it's still very loud.
     
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  12. Ale200

    Ale200 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Wow:eek:, that looks as awful as the Blue Monday 2016 remaster on Singles. By the way, which CD has the best sounding version of the original 1983 mix of this song (Blue Monday)? All of my CDs make this song very loud and Substance, which isn't compressed, sounds awful to my ears:(
     
  13. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    You didn't care for the Substance mastering?
    There is a slightly more compressed mastering on the Blue Monday 95 single. (DR-13)
    I haven't done any comparison's, between those and the old US Qwest. (PC&L)
    The UK mastering of Substance adds abit as well, 15 down to 14
    I'll give em all a listen :)
    Edit:
    Oh yeah, you want the 95. Drum intro kicks serious ass while maintaining dynamics.
     
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  14. Rgfinch

    Rgfinch King Rocky

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    Well if you squash it horizontally of course it looks bad - replay gain is -6.7 which is not bad at all considering plenty of albums or north of -10 or -11 these days.
     
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  15. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    Need to pull this comp off the shelf again soon.
     
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  16. c-eling

    c-eling Dinner's In The Microwave Sweety

    Shaved and re-leveled to -0.75, the damage was already done.
    If you enjoy them that's fine. Too much fatigue for my ears :)
     
  17. Ale200

    Ale200 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    The 24/96 versions have the same level of compression as the Spotify versions??
     
  18. fozl1986

    fozl1986 Forum Resident

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    They have a DR-Value between 8-9.
     
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  19. JeffMo

    JeffMo Format Agnostic

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    Maybe you can enjoy it in the car?? :cool:

    I am glad to have "Run 2" and "Spooky (minimix)" at long last.
     
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  20. patient_ot

    patient_ot Senior Member

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    What are equipment are you using that makes it sound bad?
     
  21. patient_ot

    patient_ot Senior Member

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    YUCK!
     
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  22. dougotte

    dougotte Petty, Annoying Dilettante

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    I know there was an agonizingly long thread here about the remasters, but strangely, I can't find it now.

    I never bothered to buy any because of various issues that were reported in that thread:
    1) overly brickwalled digital masters that don't compare with the originals;
    2) multiple technical issues w/ the extras.
     
  23. fozl1986

    fozl1986 Forum Resident

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    The 2015 digital downloads have no extras. The Problems were with the 2008 Special edition CD, corrected in 2009....
     
  24. dougotte

    dougotte Petty, Annoying Dilettante

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    Ah! Thanks for the correction. How time flies...

    Anyway, I'm happy with the original vinyl releases I bought over the last two years (well, I've had the originals of Movement and PC&L since their first release).

    After listening to the original CD of Low-Life for many years, it wasn't until I got the vinyl that I realized "Love Vigilante" has a low synth bass part.
     
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  25. Ale200

    Ale200 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I can't find any thread about the 2015 remasters, either. If you can find it, plase, share the link here:laugh:
     
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