New Pioneer 2-Channel Integrated Amplifier

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by avanti1960, Feb 9, 2019 at 10:29 AM.

  1. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Pioneer is back in the 2-channel game, at least in Europe.
    Modest ratings and price.
    Will they follow the way of Yamaha and Marantz and offer more?

    A-40AE | Pioneer

     
  2. Raylinds

    Raylinds Forum Resident

    I like the classic styling reminiscent of the 70s Pioneer amps.:righton:
     
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  3. telemike

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  4. Helom

    Helom Forum Resident

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    Looks to be class AB judging by the heatsinks. Appears to be quite similar to the Elite A20 available stateside.
     
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  5. Gibsonian

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    Really hard to beat that look. Hope the guts are as good as the skin.
     
  6. soundboy

    soundboy Forum Resident

    The only stereo integrated amp Pioneer offered in the US in recent years is the Pioneer Elite A-20, currently on sale at Amazon....

    https://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-2-Ch...s&sprefix=pioneer+inte,electronics,198&sr=1-2

    In terms of 2 channel hi-fi components, I don't think the US is considered an important market. Companies like Denon, Pioneer, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo, etc. offer many more choices in other markets than the US.
     
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  7. Ivand

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    The A-40AE was among the 2018 recommended amps by HiFiChoice magazine.
     
  8. Fruff76

    Fruff76 Forum Resident

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    I have a pioneer pd-d6-j sacd player, and I believe they made a matching integrated. Pioneer elite used To be sweet, now it appears to be cheap stuff.
     
  9. james

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    Almost makes me more interested in the speakers. They sound great (yes through my headphones via a youtube video).
     
  10. ron325

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    The US often doesn’t get the highest quality components from Japan. I don’t really know why.
     
  11. heathen

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    Loudness button :edthumbs:
     
  12. JackG

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    If you have human ears (very likely), and occasionally listen at moderate levels, that's a very smart feature to look for.
     
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  13. Hifi Kenny

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    I believe that it is Class D. IIRC Pioneer no longer makes Class AB amps.
     
  14. Classicrock

    Classicrock Forum Resident

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    It's class A/B. Large heatsinks and frame transformer inside.

     
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  15. avanti1960

    avanti1960 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    I really like the look of this amp and truly wish Pioneer would divert some effort to the 2-channel US market. Forget the "elite" stuff, just give us a kick ass high output big ol amp(150 to 200 WPC) and give Yamaha / Marantz some competition. I would be all over it.
     
  16. Benzion

    Benzion "Cogito, ergo sum" Forum Resident

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    I looked them up. Pioneer is now a brand owned by Onkyo, and plays second fiddle to the Onkyo brand, just like Denon plays second fiddle to Marantz nowadays.
     
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  17. Hifi Kenny

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  18. Helom

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  19. jeffrey walsh

    jeffrey walsh Forum Resident

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    Very nice looking unit, now go a little further and use the 70's Pioneer badge.
     
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  20. Benzion

    Benzion "Cogito, ergo sum" Forum Resident

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    Class D Amps and Direct Energy HD Amplifiers

    Perhaps the heat sinks are a nice cosmetic touch to make them look in tune with retro styling so beloved by audio fans.
     
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  21. swvahokie

    swvahokie Forum Resident

    Doubtful, large heatsinks cost serious real money. No way they get used unless absolutely needed.
     
  22. Benzion

    Benzion "Cogito, ergo sum" Forum Resident

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    I won't argue with that. All I'm saying is the link definitely proves it's a Class D amp. Incidentally, I have a class xD integrated (now boxed up), a Cambridge Azur 851A, and it does get pretty darn warm when working. No huge sinks, though, but I think the thought of all Class D running cool to the touch is a myth.

    Class xD is defined by the builder as Class A for the first 10W, Class D afterwards.
     
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  23. Classicrock

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    Now you are being funny? Maybe it's a combo of class A (or A/B more likely) and D. There is certainly the transformer and heat sinks you need for this type of design. Anyway it looks like it isn't a pure class D design.
     
  24. swvahokie

    swvahokie Forum Resident

    The internals of that amp are conventional and very well built for a 30 watter. Pretty much all class d amps use modules for the amp section. Don’t see any on those boards.
     
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  25. Benzion

    Benzion "Cogito, ergo sum" Forum Resident

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    Has anyone actually clicked on that link and read what it says there? I mean - it's directly on the Pioneer's website. Here's a quote:

    "Direct Energy HD Amplifier

    Today, Pioneer incorporated recent innovations in sound tuning and its analog amplifier technology to create a new type of Class D amplifier powerful enough for professional use. The result was the Direct Energy HD amplifier - A class D amplifier that is now responsible for the high efficiency sound amplification in the new SC series of home AV Receivers. "

    Perhaps it is a combination with A or A/B - I would not be surprised. As I've said above, my own amp is Class A first 10W, class D thereafter. This could be something similar. But there's definitely Class D in there somewhere.
     
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