SH Spotlight Newbies getting started playing vinyl, please avoid mistracking & resulting groove damage!!!

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Dec 12, 2009.

  1. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    I upgraded the stylus on the 95E installed on my backup table, and have no problems whatsoever with it. I was able to locate an aftermarket Jico stylus with an .0003x.0007 elliptical tip which sounds better than the stock stylus. It also stands up to the Ortofon test record, tracking at 1.7g.
     
  2. Channel Z

    Channel Z Forum Resident

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  3. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    Most of not all Japanese JICO styli have a dark dot on the underside of the cantilever near the tip. The EVG styli I've bought for my Shure M93 cart have had the JICO dot on them. Those EVGs had the part number PM3136DE on them and were described as N91E and/or N91ED equivalents. What kind of packaging did yours arrive in...a plastic clamshell box with the white and yellow EVG label?
     
  4. Channel Z

    Channel Z Forum Resident

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    It came in a plastic clamshell with white and yellow label. Mine has the blue dot on the cantilever.
     
  5. Channel Z

    Channel Z Forum Resident

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    Here's a picture

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  6. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    I see the dot. That is a Japanese JICO stylus.
     
  7. Channel Z

    Channel Z Forum Resident

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    Thanks for your help. It seems better built than the one that was on it.
     
  8. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    This is how my stylus was labelled...looks to be same as yours.[​IMG]
     
  9. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    And this is the stylus on the cart:[​IMG]
     
  10. Channel Z

    Channel Z Forum Resident

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    Mine is similar but the # is 761-DED on top and a different bar code #. Russell Industries on side. Mine has a black front.
     
  11. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    Can't help but wonder if these are the same styli despite the numbering difference...[​IMG]
     
  12. Channel Z

    Channel Z Forum Resident

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    Probably. The only difference is the color of the housing. Yours is green and mine is black.
     
  13. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    I also have several Tonar replacement styli labeled as N91ED equivalents that have the dot as well...[​IMG]
     
  14. Channel Z

    Channel Z Forum Resident

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    Here's my case with the old stylus.

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  15. tables_turning

    tables_turning In The Groove

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    I have JICO N91ED equivalents that have green, black and ivory plastic grips on them. All have dots on the cantilevers. All claim to have elliptical dimensions of .0003x.0007.

    It seems possible that JICO may have been supplying numerous resellers with N91ED equivalents in varying colors.
     
  16. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing

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    The standard headshell that comes with the Audio Technica works just fine...don't you have that? It is a cool & easy install, as you don't need those hard to handle nuts--the screws just screw directly into the cartridge.
     
  17. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing

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    I hear ya. My next upgrade -- but for now, the Red is just fine!
     
  18. PhxJohn

    PhxJohn Forum Resident

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    EVG magnetic styli WERE coming from JICO. No longer. They will come from the same Swiss manufacturer that Pfanstiehl buys from. Tonar continues to source from JICO and Nagaoka.
     
  19. shutdown66

    shutdown66 Forum Resident

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    Hi Steve,
    very useful and interesting post!
    Could you upload a sound clip - a needle drop of a distortion tracking?
    Thank you in advance.
     
  20. slop101

    slop101 Guitar Geek

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    How often should I be changing my needle?
    Like, after how many records played; 500? 2,000?
     
  21. The Pinhead

    The Pinhead SLEAZY SOUTHAMERICAN CAVEMAN

    1000 hs. At 40' per Lp; do the maths. Just keep track of the number of Lps you play.
     
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  22. The FRiNgE

    The FRiNgE Forum Resident

    It's a stylus, not a needle. :sigh: The generic term "needle" comes from the old grammphone which was changed for every record. :pleased: The buzz-word "needledrop" sources from the same, but describes the transfer of vinyl to a digital file.

    The stylus should be inspected and possibly replaced after approx 1000 hours. This translates to about 3000 album sides (apprx 20 minutes each) Stylus wear varies according to tracking force and cleanliness of the record. Clean records extend stylus life, dirty records shorten it. Worn records, when cleaned on an RCM, mostly do not affect stylus life.

    Some audiophiles have reported stylus service life well beyond 1000 hours, up to twice that, and confirmed by inspection and sound quality. The records must be clean, and a cartridge optimally aligned to achieve that.

    The conical (diamond) stylus should be inspected sooner, after about 400 hours (1200 album sides) as their smaller contact area increases their wear rate.
    A sapphire stylus should be replaced often, perhaps about every 200 hours, but these are found only with ceramic and crystal cartridges, equipped on mass produced record changers, portable record players and consoles.
     
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  23. marka

    marka Forum Resident

    And for another definition of a “needledrop”, ask a millennial what it means. It’s too painful for me to describe.
     
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  24. lemonade kid

    lemonade kid Forever Changing

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    the Ortofon works fits fine with the standard Audio Technica headshell and with Ortofon Red; it screws in directly so no fiddling with the tiny nuts that most require when installing.
     
  25. Chrome_Head

    Chrome_Head Forum Resident

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    Los Angeles, CA.
    Thanks, I was just re-reading this thread today and was wondering if the 2m just fits. I may be picking one up this year.

    Scooped up a couple AT100/E replacement styli from LP Gear middle of last year and have already gone through one.
     

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