Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Album thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by mark winstanley, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. vonwegen

    vonwegen Forum Resident

    That's the one song Cave later regretted singing, instead of letting Roland S. Howard (the songwriter) do it.
     
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  2. crazy eights

    crazy eights Truckstop Lovechild

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    barry looking sharp
     
  3. Longers

    Longers Forum Resident

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    great photos mark w !
     
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  4. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    I just searched for something that looked good to me lol. I like these threads to be dressed up a little.
    Glad you liked them!
     
  5. Gavinyl

    Gavinyl Remembering Member

    Thanks for that ! Nick and MES ! Little Black Book...lol
     
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  6. mark winstanley

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    Jack's Shadow
    This is a great song, which in effect sounds like a more focused version of the styles found on From Her To Eternity. Lost of drama and tension and the abrasive atmospherics that help build the dynamic of the song.


    Lyrics
    They dragged Jack and his shadow
    From the hole
    And the bulb that burned above him
    Did shine both day and night
    And his shadow learned to love his
    Little darks and greater light
    And the sun it shined
    And the sun it shined
    And the sun it shined
    A little stronger

    Jack wept and kissed his shadow
    “Goodbye”
    Spat from their dirty dungeons
    Into a truly different din
    Shat from their institutions
    Into a fully different din
    And his shadow soon became a wife
    And children plagued his latter life
    Until one night he took a skinning knife
    And stole into the town
    And tracked his shadow down

    Said the shadow to Jack Henry
    “What’s wrong?”
    Jack said “A home is not a hole”
    “And Shadow, you’re just a gallow that I hang my body from”
    “O Shadow, your a shackle from which my time is never done”
    Then he peeled his shadow off in strips
    He peeled his shadow off in strips
    Then kneeled his shadow on some steps
    And cried “What have I done!?”

    And the sun it shined
    And the sun it shined
    I say “Love is blind”
    “And is it any wonder?!”
    “Is it any wonder?!”

    Jack and his damned shadow
    Is gone
    And though each one of us are want to duly mourn
    And though each one of us are want to duly mourn
    ‘Tis done in brighter corners now
    ‘Tis done in brighter corners now
    Now that Jack’s black shadow’s gone

    And the sun it shines
    And the sun it shines
    And the sun it shines
    A little stronger

    I swear, love is blind
    Ooh love is blind
    Yeah love is blind
    And is it any wonder?

    ‘Tis done in brighter corners now
    ‘Tis done in brighter corners now
    Now that Jack’s black shadow’s gone

    Etcetera Etcetera
     
  7. mark winstanley

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    Hard On For Love
    Again this song echoes the sound and feel of the earlier albums.


    Lyrics
    It is for she that the cherry bleeds
    That the moon is steeped in milk and blood
    That I steal like a robber
    From her altar of love
    O money lender! O cloven gender!
    I am the fiend hid in her skirts
    And it’s as hot as hell in here
    Coming at her as I am from above
    Hard on for love hard on for love
    Hard on for love hard on for love

    Well, I swear I seen that girl before
    Like she walked straight outa the book of Leviticus
    But they can stone me with stones I don’t care
    Just as long as I can get to kiss
    Those gypsy lips! Gypsy lips!
    My aim is to hit this Miss
    And I’m movin in (I’m movin in)
    Coming at her like Lazarus from above
    Hard on for love hard on for love
    Hard on for love hard on for love

    The Lord is my shepard I shall not want
    The Lord is my shepard I shall not want
    But he leadeth me like a lamb to the lips
    Of the mouth of the valley of the shadow of death
    I am his rod and his staff
    I am his sceptre and shaft
    And she is heaven and hell
    At whose gates I ain’t been delivered
    I’m gunna give them gates a shove
    Hard on for love hard on for love
    Hard on for love hard on for love

    And her breasts rise and fall
    Her breast rise and fall
    Her breast rise and fall
    Her breast rise and fall
    And just when I’m about to get my hands on her
    Just when I’m about to get my hands on her
    Just when I’m about to get my hands on her
    Just when I’m about to get my hands on her
    You are beautiful! O dove!
    Hard on for love hard on for love
    Hard on for love hard on for love

    Just when I’m about to get my hands on her
    Just when I’m about to get my hands on her

    Her breasts rise and fall
    Her breasts rise and fall

    Just when I’m about to get my hands on her
    Just when I’m about to get my hands on her

    Hard on for love hard on for love
    Hard on for love hard on for love
     
  8. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    That should be lots, not lost .... oh dear ....
     
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  11. mark winstanley

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    She Fell Away
    This song has quite a sensational soundtrack and leaves you with the feeling that the band had used the popular soft side, hard side with this album.
    This song kicks along with a basic theme that continues throughout with accents and nice musical effects thrown in to accentuate dynamics and melody.


    Lyrics
    Once she lay open like a road
    Carbed apart the madness that I stumbled from
    But she fell away
    She fell away
    Shed me like a skin
    She fell away
    Left me holding everything

    Once the road lay open like a girl
    And we drank and laughed and threw the bottle over
    But she fell away
    She fell away
    I did not see the cracks form
    As I knelt to pray
    I did not see the crevice yawn, no

    Sometimes
    At night I feel the end it is at hand
    My pistol going crazy in my hand
    For she fell away
    O she fell away
    Walked me to the brink
    Then fell away
    I did not see her fall
    To better days
    Sometimes I wonder was she ever there at all
    She fell away
    She fell away
    She fell away
     
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  12. mark winstanley

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    Long Time Man
    This is such a great song in this form. The song was written by Tim Rose and released as a single by him in 1967. I haven't heard the original, but i reckon it may be worth posting .... I really like the feel of this song. I think it is very effective and ends this great album well.


    Lyrics
    Yeah, they came to take me away
    Said I'd be sitting here for the rest of my life
    But I don't really care, I shot my wife
    And brother, I can't even remember the reason why

    [Chorus:]
    Oh, it makes a long time man feel bad
    Yeah, it makes a long time man feel bad
    Well I ain't had no love since I don't know when
    It sure makes a long time man feel bad

    We was down in Jacksonville
    A cold winter night
    My baby and I, we began to fight
    I heated up, and I grabbed my gun
    I get so cold on those nights down south

    She was laying in a pool right there on the kitchen floor
    She looked up at me and began to smile
    Her gasping words: "Baby, I love you"
    Then she closed those baby blue eyes

    [Chorus]

    Sometimes I hear you call my name in the dead of the night
    I ain't had those arms around me
    I ain't had those lips, those lips, around me

    It sure makes a long time man feel bad
    So bad
     
  13. mark winstanley

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    Tim Rose - Long Time Man


    Much more like a country song and sounding musically a little like the Decemberists. Certainly an excellent choice of a song to cover and arranged really well by the band.
     
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  14. mark winstanley

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    Apparently this is the original version done by Rose
     
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  16. Marc 74

    Marc 74 Senior Member

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    West Germany,NRW
    "Well I think Your Funeral... My Trial was particularly narrative," Cave told New Musical Express in 1988. "The way I'm portrayed I find particularly funny sometimes, this supposed pessimism I'm meant to harbour towards everything and anything. I think something like Your Funeral... My Trial has got its humorous side, because I'm reasonably aware of the reputation that I've got. I find it curious to think certain people would find songs I write so continually harping on the same themes to be irritating, pathetic and so on. I kind of find some sort of enjoyment in that."
    To call Your Funeral... My Trial a "rock and roll" album would be somewhat misleading, though it certainly does rock.
     
  17. mark winstanley

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    Tender Prey

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    Studio album by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
    Released
    19 September 1988
    Recorded August–November 1987
    Studio Vielklang Studios and Hansa Tonstudio in West Berlin, Germany; Trident Studios and Strongroom Studios in London, United Kingdom
    Length 54:34
    Label Mute
    Producer Flood, Tony Cohen, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds

    Tender Prey is the fifth studio album by Australian rock band Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, released on 19 September 1988 on Mute Records. Produced by Flood, the album was recorded during several sessions over the course of four months in West Berlin—where the band were based at the time of its release—and London and dedicated to Fernando Ramos da Silva.

    The album opens with frontman Nick Cave's signature song, "The Mercy Seat," which has been subsequently played at almost all of the band's live performances since 1988, and was later covered by one of Cave's influences, Johnny Cash, on American III: Solitary Man (2000). "The Mercy Seat" was released as a single in May 1988 prior to the album's release and "Deanna" was released in September. On the CD version, the video mix of "The Mercy Seat" is also included as the last track.

    Upon its release, Tender Prey received positive reviews and charted in the United Kingdom and Greece. However, the album failed to chart in either the band's native Australia or the United States Billboard charts. The album was remastered and reissued on 29 March 2010 as a collector's edition CD/DVD set and in October 2010. It was also listed in the book 100 Best Australian Albums, alongside The Boatman's Call (1997), in the Top 30.[8]

    Cave later said, "It was a nightmare, that record. It is reflective of a group - particularly myself - who was just writing songs and there was no larger idea behind it. Sometimes some of the group was there, sometimes they weren't. I hear bad production and I hear bad performances as well."[9] Cave later admitted that the album, "was made at a difficult time in my life when things were spiralling out of control in a lot of areas."[10]

    In 2012, the album was added to the National Film and Sound Archive's Sounds of Australia.

    This album seemed to be like a coming of age for the band. In a lot of people's minds it is the best thing they have done. I am not one of those people, though I do love the album. For me Your Funeral... My Trial is where the band found themselves and stepped on up. What Tender Prey did have was the phenomenal and epic Mercy Seat, probably considered by most as his most important and possibly signature song. It also had a rip roaring second single in the song Deanna which also pricked up a lot of ears with its Bonnie and Clyde like imagery.
    This is certainly an important album in the sense that these two songs, at least, brought wider exposure to the band and some momentum started to pick up for them on a wider scale. They managed to slowly move out of the underground and yet keep their alternative banner flying high.
    Tomorrow morning we'll start going through this album and hopefully you all feel like joining in the fun.
     
  18. crazy eights

    crazy eights Truckstop Lovechild

    Location:
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    before moving on to tender prey i would just like to comment on jack"s shadow, it was written about jack henry abbot who was a convict released early due to his literary talent and championed by such people as norman mailer and other well known celebrities, it didn't take too long after his release to stab to death a local restaurant worker , jack henry wound up back in prison from which he never should have been released and commited suicide
    i think the power of this story lends some credence to mr. caves lyrics

    Jack Abbott (author) - Wikipedia
     
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  19. mark winstanley

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    Comment on anything we have done at any time mate. Thanks for the info, i didn't know that!
     
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  20. Marc 74

    Marc 74 Senior Member

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    The brilliant Mercy Seat aside,Up Jumped The Devil & New Morning are (my) favorites from that album. Never been a huge fan of Deanna. I guess during that time the drug abuse took its toll (didn’t Cave enter rehab after Tender Prey?). However,the next album would sound quite different and marked a new chapter for the band.


    O poor heart
    I was doomed from the start
    Doomed to play
    The villian's part
    I was the baddest Johnny
    In the apple cart
    My blood was blacker
    Than the chambers of a dead nun's heart
     
  21. krlpuretone

    krlpuretone Forum Resident

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    Deanna is definitely a love/hate kind of song...not sure where I stand on it on any given day.
     
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  22. Mylene

    Mylene Senior Member

    Love it. I bought the 12"

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    bonus postcard with 12"
     
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  23. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    I am closer to this opinion, most of the time i love it. I just think it was an important song for the band. It has a certain accessibility for those less drawn to the really alt. stuff
     
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  24. Longers

    Longers Forum Resident

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    Sorry to interrupt your train of thought mw, just wanted to mention the final unlisted track on "Your Funeral .." (at least on my CD Stumm ..)

    The first time I heard "Scum" it immediately struck me with it's extreme bitterness/venom directed, it would seem, against a pair of music critics.
    Think of the bitterest Dylan/Costello lyrics and add an order of magnitude

    Forum discussion re. Scum
     
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  25. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product Thread Starter

    Oh mate, I completely forgot about that one .... Thank you!
     

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