Nick Drake

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  1. flaxton

    flaxton Forum Resident

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    My fruit tree albums look mint condition but have quite a few pops and clicks. Is this usual.
     
  2. Dan33185

    Dan33185 Dylan/Cohen/Adams/T. Buckley/Holly

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    I've always thought this song was kind of poking fun at himself for his perceived self pity

     
  3. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    A very busy arrangement. Nick wasn’t keen on this album. A stripped version would be welcome
     
  4. Dan33185

    Dan33185 Dylan/Cohen/Adams/T. Buckley/Holly

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    Not the greatest quality, but this is just him and his guitar

     
  5. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    I bought the Pink Moon Box, then bought BL when it was given a single vinyl re-release -- I've held off on on the remastered Five Leaves vinyl fearing the source problems. Maybe I'll pick it up.
     
  6. JNTEX

    JNTEX Lava Police

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    Welp, it's not going to be a one step AAA. 'new', no, new to them yes.

    I have read that Nick Drake's stuff was in the UA fire. There is no way I can verify this. IMO I don't believe this is the reason the masters are gone.

    Regardless, the originals in decent condition will set you back about 2500 if your very lucky.

    The 86 box set can be found for a bill.

    86 US (euro)
    Nick Drake - Fruit Tree

    79 UK
    Nick Drake - Fruit Tree · The Complete Recorded Works

    There is also a 79 Italy I have no experience with.
     
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  7. ralphb

    ralphb "First they came for..."

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    The Antilles versions that came out in the mid 70's sound very good to my ears, and I would hazard a guess that they are far cheaper than original Island pink rims.
     
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  8. onlyconnect

    onlyconnect The prose and the passion

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    I have the 86 Fruit Tree and it sounds great to me. I also have the 2013 Bryter Layter and Pink Moon but the 86 box if anything has the edge to my ears.

    Tim
     
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  9. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover

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    How gross and insensitive!
     
  10. DrewMeyer

    DrewMeyer Forum Resident

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    We’ve been over this already, it’s not worth it
     
  11. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    Maybe you should study "depression" and find out what you're talking about before you so casually dismiss it.
     
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  12. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    His problem.
     
  13. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    But . . . what bitrate?
     
  14. lucan_g

    lucan_g Forum Resident

    I'm amazed at anyone who says that music that deals with sadness and the passing of the seasons is a problem.

    Either you are the world's most ignorant and oblivious individual, or you aren't really paying attention to life. Do you avoid Shakespeare, Blake, Elliot, Dostoyevsky, Sartre, Hemingway, Yeats, Eli Wiesel, Toni Morrison, Samuel Barber, Mahler -- pretty much all great art -- on the basis that it deals with the human condition and difficult subject matter?

    Enjoy your Taylor Swift and Sesame Street collection. Unfortunately, Winnie-the-Pooh is probably out of reach because of Eeyore and, well, a little too much truth.

    Ok, I've calmed down now. Carry on.
     
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  15. stepeanut

    stepeanut The gloves are off

    Taylor Swift is widely known (and sometimes criticised) for her lyrical content, which often focuses on the breakup of personal relationships. So, probably not a good example of a feel-good artist.

    Also, Oscar the Grouch.

    Carry on.
     
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  16. bleachershane

    bleachershane Forum Resident

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    24-bit... Unless you mean sample rate?
     
  17. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Feel good artist”?
    Meet and greet that’s the closest I’ll get. :)
     
  18. Carl Swanson

    Carl Swanson Senior Member

    "24 is bit DEPTH. If the transfers were made at 92kHz or above, that analog/digital graphic is irrelevant.
     
  19. tug_of_war

    tug_of_war Unable to tolerate bass solos

    Depression is a neurological illness, Mr. Social Warrior.
     
  20. tug_of_war

    tug_of_war Unable to tolerate bass solos

    And I don't think Nick Drake's music is that depressive. It's mostly melancholic but then again melancholy (and even depression) is so common in music.
    If we're to dismiss Nick Drake's music for being sad, then we'll have to dismiss a lot of other things as well.
     
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  21. dubious title

    dubious title Forum Resident

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    I just completed my fancy Drake collection. A US first Antilles FLL, A second UK BL and a US first PM.

    Have the Hannibal Fruit Tree box and the above presses easily better them. The FT box LPs sound a little lifeless in comparison. A reviewer on Analogue Planet thought the first US bettered the first UK PM in some aspects. The US PM sounds quite lovely. Very pleased with the Antilles FLL too. Unsurprisingly all the quality early pressings of Nicks records are going up in value.

    Funny I never hear about privileged or rich athletes. If you're an artist and are suspected of having some means you may be called upon to explain yourself.
     
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  22. Vangro

    Vangro Forum Resident

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  23. bleachershane

    bleachershane Forum Resident

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    Sorry, when you said bitrate I was trying to work out what you meant:
    24-bit =bit depth
    44.1kHz (for example) is sample rate
    Bitrate as you requested is bit depth x sample rate (for example 16-bit x 44.1kHz =705kbps (rounded) per channel, 1411kbps stereo, two channels)

    Anyway, I digress, the only information I believe we have on the Nick Drake master tape transfers done was 24-bit, sadly I don't believe we haven't anything further as to sample rate. I'd be surprised if it was only 44.1kHz for that era, or even 48kHz. Fingers crossed it was 88.2kHz and upwards, seeing as the master is now unusable and this transfer will be the definitive source for all future releases.
     
  24. Bit rates and depth are irrelevant if the mastering is bad.

    I'm not convinced anyone can hear the difference between 24 and 16 bit or 192 kHz and 44.1 kHz. Blind test results certainly don't reveal much evidence to the contrary anyway.
     
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  25. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    So the definitive biography is still to be written?
     
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