Nick Mason: "I think the problem is Roger doesn’t really respect David"

Yes. Roger Waters wrote a majority of the music and about 98% of the lyrics.

 

Waters was credited on his own for a lot of it, including 90% of The Wall and all of TFC, but surely the Guitar and Keyboard parts were Gilmour and Wright's creations even when they did not get writing credit.

 

Yes that's been brought up (more than once) in previous threads threads that degenerated into Roger vs. Dave pissing matches. You, and those who thanked the post, absolutely right though. Some meaningless verse from 25 years ago supercedes everything.

 

I guess Waters’ numbers get bumped up when you include Wall filler tracks and The Final Cut

 

I've seen his name misspelled as 'Rogers' Waters countless times, but Roger 'Water' is a first for me ;-)

 

Roger wrote most of the music and lyrics even before The Wall and The Final Cut were produced.

 

Deliberately ignoring most of what Roger Waters contributed to the Floyd is essential for painting him as the bad guy.

 

I demand a track breakdown for every album; Piper to Division Bell!

 

Seventies Floyd were more than the sum of its parts. I’m not a musician but the basic building blocks of PF songs seem to me.....pretty basic. The magic came when Gilmour and Wright lifted those elements to a higher place with their playing and sensibilities. Waters was obviously the dominant force lyrically and conceptually but I don’t think he’s a particularly imaginative musician/composer.

 

Obviously not on Piper which is their best. And then there's stuff like Fat Old Sun which is just by David and a great song and stuff like Fearless which is lyrics by Roger and music by David, or Wish You Were Here, same. And David cowrote Comfortably Numb which I take to mean the big chorus part as opposed to the riff but maybe he wrote the riff too. Either way it has to be tough for Roger to have that chorus be the part everyone likes best on a double album where Roger wrote everything else.

 

"Like many Pink Floyd fans, Mason finds their ongoing battle frustrating. “I think it comes and goes,” he says. "

Yeah, and probably "comes" when you bring it up, like in this interview.

 

Surely to the fans who read into it. I don't think that Nick's quote changes anything between the other two who will probably shrug this off or just laugh at it.

 

I hope so. I should know better but I glanced through this thread ...and wish I hadn't!

 

I think Roger is a very talented and imaginative composer and lyricist, but I do agree with you regarding Floyds' greatness being the sum of it's parts.

 

That's Mr. Water to you and me! Or we can simply ruminate over when Rogers Water broke after he dusted up with Dave and Nick.

 

We have his solo output to assess. It had the Floyd-type sound effects. Then he seemed to need 2-ton gorillas to handle the guitar parts (Clapton and Beck). His live shows have reverted back to Floyd-level scale. He increasingly limited the amount of solo material during set lists. Point is if lyrics and concept were the end all/be all, Roger solo should have been accepted the same without the PF name.

 

Pink Mac?

Fleetwood Floyd?

 

He does tend toward turgidity when there's no one in the studio to push back or laugh at his pretensions.

 

That's the BeeGees.

 

Stop bickering. Daves Gilmour wrote all the good stuff, Rick Wrights was just a bloke on keys, Nick Masons was a plodding drunmer and Roger Water moans on and on about his dad.

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780123855220000056

 

... from '73 on, yes. Before that it was more democratic.

And cooperative.

 

Bottom Line: PF is better than its parts.

Fear not. PF will never perform again.

 

Roger positioned himself as the poet of Pink Floyd post-Syd. David was invited in and was "the new guy," who Roger may have thought should be happy just to be there. David has said even in the 70s, he was still treated as the new guy in the band.

Roger probably always resented the attention David got for his guitar playing and singing. And that's a seed for strife and drama from things that shouldn't be all that dramatic.