Orchard Audio Starkrimson Stereo Ultra Amp Tour!

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Ted Torres Jr, Jun 19, 2022.

  1. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State


    I drive Lansche 4.2 with Starkrimson full range.

    My impression of Starkrimson is very positive.

    But amplifier and speakers need to have synergy due to impedance and frequrency aberration.

    Thus the best way is to do audition it yourself.

    I will send my tour unit to the person in next line tomorrow.
     
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  2. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State
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  3. timind

    timind phorum rezident

    Orchard Audio sends you an amp to audition with the hope you'll post your impressions in this thread, and you post your impression on another website. WTF?
     
  4. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
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    Why not?

    If I do not like it, I would not have done it.

    I am not sure it is the best D class amp available now.

    But it sounds very nice at reasonable cost.
     
  5. timind

    timind phorum rezident

    My point is, it makes sense to post your impressions here, where people are waiting for them. Feel free to post them anywhere else you please, but this is the place where there is genuine interest. My two cents.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2023
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  6. DennyCrane

    DennyCrane Well-Known Member

    @thomaskong Are you going to write a review here, or is the collection of notes and videos you posted here it?
     
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  7. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State
    I will write review after going back to my lm 508.

    Before shipping to the person in next line, I am listening to Starkrimson now.


    It sounds pretty nice.

    I may take few more video clips.
     
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  8. RonN5

    RonN5 Forum Resident

    Having owned the Crown XLS 2000....while it sounded acceptable for $500....it's not really in the same Galaxy as the Ultra...one plays music....the other is musical.
     
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  9. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State


    Before seinding it to the person in next line on tour, I took more video clips.

    it seems that Starkrims work better with Lansche 4.1 than Scaena 3.2

    I plan to write comprehensive review after spening my time with Line Magnetic 508 and Schitt Aegir.
     
  10. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State


    I attended Pacific Audiofest held at Seattle last July.

    Big genesis driven by Merril Audio class D amp sounds really spectacular.

    But the combined price of pre and monoblocks is 54k$.

    I do not believe that Starkrimson is at ths same level as Merril Audio class D amp.

    But it seems to be good value.

    As I listen to Scaena through Schitt Aegir again now, I miss transparency and details of Starkrimson although Aegir sounds musical with full body.
     
  11. Ilusndweller

    Ilusndweller S.H.M.F.=>Reely kewl.

    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Seems like you posted your thoughts on SBAF, so you could copy and paste that stuff here. Since this is where the "tour" originated, seems logical. Then add more thoughts later(or not). Just a thought. I didnt read everything but seemed good to me. :)
     
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  12. orchardaudio

    orchardaudio Orchard Audio

    Location:
    Succasunna, NJ
    Reviews:
    @Ted Torres Jr -- here and here and here
    @james -- the review is at this link (post #7)
    @Oliver Meyer -- the review is at this link (post #37)
    @Jaytor -- the review is at this link (post #66)
    @gguy -- the review is at this link (post #111)
    @naru1980 -- the review is at this link (post #147)
    @okc_craft -- the review is at this link (post #165)
    @ejk1 -- the review is at this link (post #171)
    @RonN5 -- the review is at this link (post #192)
    @barondla -- the review is at this link (post #214)
    @DennyCrane -- the review is at this link (post #224)
    @nymarty -- the review is at this link (post #278)
    @MValentiner --the review is at this link (post #287)
    @jimbones -- the review is at this link (post #360)
    @OBLuver -- the review is in the works
    @buckdog58 -- the review is in the works
    @thomaskong -- the review is in the works

    Upcoming Individuals:
    1. @Nick BZ -- skipping for now at their request
    2. @Devg -- skipping for now at their request
    3. @Paul_In_WA -- the amp is on the way to this person.
    4. @rhing
    5. @jcn3
    6. @Gibsonian
    7. @CarmineRed

    Joining the Tour:
    For anybody else who is looking to join the tour please send me a message through the contact us form on the website.

    Tour Rules:
    Participants are responsible for the cost of shipping to the next person.
    Participants have to write their thoughts in this forum thread after trying out the amp.
    Participants get to try the amplifier for 7-days
     
  13. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State


    I am back to one of my tube amps, Rogue Cronuns Magnum II fitted with Tungsol Kt120, vintage Telefuken 12ax7 and Amperex 12au7.

    As good as class D amp is with transparency and details, tube amp sounds more lively.

    But if you want no heat and limit of playing time, it is good to try class D amp.

    I usually turn off tube amp after two hours of playing.


    In that way, i had used my tube amps without any problem for long time.

    Starkrimsom got very close to nice tube amp in musicality.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2023
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  14. orchardaudio

    orchardaudio Orchard Audio

    Location:
    Succasunna, NJ
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  15. RonN5

    RonN5 Forum Resident

    The Orchard Audio room is a must hear… for $5k the Soundfield Audio
    M1V2 bookshelves driven by Leo’s Stereo Ultra were stunning… and more importantly…. musical. A Must Hear!
     
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  16. ejk1

    ejk1 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Staten Island, NY
    Thanks Ron. I have been waiting for some feedback. I was kind of hoping there would have been some more feedback. Today is the last day so maybe we'll get some. I know that the Audiophile Junkie has been doing coverage on YouTube as well as that guy Jay, not that I think their word is golden but would like to hear their impressions.
     
  17. RonN5

    RonN5 Forum Resident

    This is the fourth Florida show I've been to. In the past, it seems like there was often a contest to see who could have the loudest room...I guess that those in charge of the room equated volume with sound quality.

    This year, almost every room sounded good and I think this occurred because most rooms were in the 80-90 db level....and because most of the gear pairings were good.

    Another thing...many rooms show together all the time...like Volti/Triode/Border Patrol....so, they know what sound to expect. I'm sure in Orchard's case....they got what they got...and fortunately for them, AJ from Soundfield makes great sounding speakers....and they really seemed to come alive with the Stereo Ultra.

    I really appreciated that Leo took requests...one of the guys I was with was a big band horn player and he really liked the sound from this room as well.

    If I could slip Leo a note it would say...." get a few things up on the wall or available to hand out promoting the price/value of this room....the synergy with Soundfield....etc.

    Why, the rooms are often noisy and crowded and so you can't always talk the the Principal and any time people can easily ascertain the value proposition that comes from the sound, price and synergy of what they hear..they are more likely to remember and make a purchase.
     
  18. orchardaudio

    orchardaudio Orchard Audio

    Location:
    Succasunna, NJ
    Three tracks that I discovered at the show that are marvels and refrence quality, must listen in my opinion:

    Kashmir by Marcin on Qobuz Open Qobuz

    Kothbiro by Voena on Qobuz Open Qobuz

    The Ghetto by George Benson on Qobuz Open Qobuz
     
  19. RonN5

    RonN5 Forum Resident

    Ah...but another question....what did people hear that they want to add to their regular play list vs their "show my system off" list?
     
  20. orchardaudio

    orchardaudio Orchard Audio

    Location:
    Succasunna, NJ
    These two stand out most to me:
    Open Qobuz -- Darlin' Cory
    Open Qobuz -- Hanuman

    P.S. I got to play very little of the playlist I put together as we took requests.
     
  21. orchardaudio

    orchardaudio Orchard Audio

    Location:
    Succasunna, NJ
    Reviews:
    @Ted Torres Jr -- here and here and here
    @james -- the review is at this link (post #7)
    @Oliver Meyer -- the review is at this link (post #37)
    @Jaytor -- the review is at this link (post #66)
    @gguy -- the review is at this link (post #111)
    @naru1980 -- the review is at this link (post #147)
    @okc_craft -- the review is at this link (post #165)
    @ejk1 -- the review is at this link (post #171)
    @RonN5 -- the review is at this link (post #192)
    @barondla -- the review is at this link (post #214)
    @DennyCrane -- the review is at this link (post #224)
    @nymarty -- the review is at this link (post #278)
    @MValentiner --the review is at this link (post #287)
    @jimbones -- the review is at this link (post #360)
    @OBLuver -- the review is in the works
    @buckdog58 -- the review is in the works
    @thomaskong -- the review is in the works

    Upcoming Individuals:
    1. @Paul_In_WA -- the amp is currently with this person
    2. @Nick BZ -- amp will be going to this person next
    3. @Devg -- skipping for now at their request
    4. @rhing
    5. @jcn3
    6. @Gibsonian
    7. @CarmineRed

    Joining the Tour:
    For anybody else who is looking to join the tour please send me a message through the contact us form on the website.

    Tour Rules:
    Participants are responsible for the cost of shipping to the next person.
    Participants have to write their thoughts in this forum thread after trying out the amp.
    Participants get to try the amplifier for 7-days
     
  22. panhead

    panhead Active Member

    Location:
    Chicage
    Hello everyone! Please add me to the tour list.

    Thanks
     
  23. ejk1

    ejk1 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Staten Island, NY
    Please see above post
     
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  24. orchardaudio

    orchardaudio Orchard Audio

    Location:
    Succasunna, NJ
    Reviews:
    @Ted Torres Jr -- here and here and here
    @james -- the review is at this link (post #7)
    @Oliver Meyer -- the review is at this link (post #37)
    @Jaytor -- the review is at this link (post #66)
    @gguy -- the review is at this link (post #111)
    @naru1980 -- the review is at this link (post #147)
    @okc_craft -- the review is at this link (post #165)
    @ejk1 -- the review is at this link (post #171)
    @RonN5 -- the review is at this link (post #192)
    @barondla -- the review is at this link (post #214)
    @DennyCrane -- the review is at this link (post #224)
    @nymarty -- the review is at this link (post #278)
    @MValentiner --the review is at this link (post #287)
    @jimbones -- the review is at this link (post #360)
    @OBLuver -- the review is in the works
    @buckdog58 -- the review is in the works
    @thomaskong -- the review is in the works

    Upcoming Individuals:
    1. @Paul_In_WA -- the amp is currently with this person
    2. @Nick BZ -- amp will be going to this person next
    3. @Devg -- skipping for now at their request
    4. @rhing
    5. @jcn3
    6. @Gibsonian
    7. @CarmineRed
    8. @panhead

    Joining the Tour:
    For anybody else who is looking to join the tour please send me a message through the contact us form on the website.
    The tour amplifier is the "middle" configuration (singe power supply with caps) at $2900 MSRP.

    Tour Rules:
    Participants are responsible for the cost of shipping to the next person.
    Participants have to write their thoughts in this forum thread after trying out the amp.
    Participants get to try the amplifier for 7-days
     
  25. thomaskong

    thomaskong Forum Resident

    Location:
    Washington State
    After auditioning Orchard Audio Starkrimson Ultra for 8 days, I had been listening to Line Magnetic 508 and Rogue Cronus Magnum II fitted with vintage tubes.

    8 days is too short to reach clear conclusionl without doing cable rolling or comparsion with other refutable class D amp like Atmashphere or Audion.


    But Starkrimson clearly has no serious fault at all.

    It sounds very transparent with lot of details.

    Soundstage is wide and deep enough ( not the best but close to it).

    The reason that my friend Rex found it sound thin compared with Dartzeel 108 could be due to upstream source and super revealing nature of Scaena 3.2

    Starkrimson works nice with both Lansche 4.1 and Vaugn Cabernett II.

    Thus it is a nice value for sure.

    I recommend you try it by being in the line for tour.


    But both Rex and I favor my Line Magnetic 508 fitted with vintage tubes over Starkrimson.

    The reason is my tube amp give halo around each instrument and nuanced details.

    Next week I will visit Korea to see my 100 days' old granddaughter.


    Luckily, I could attend Seoul Audio show which will be held at Kangnam, Seoul.

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    it had been 20 years since I attened the Seoul Audio show which is pretty big.

    After being back to US late March, I plant to audition one of Atma and Audion or Orchard Bosc monoblocks.

    Then I may give more clear conclusion.
     
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