Original stereo copy of Magical Mystery Tour with some mono tracks?

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  1. Beebs

    Beebs Active Member Thread Starter

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    Hi,

    I sold a copy of the following record and the buyer said that some of the songs appeared to be either mono mixes or simply muddy. Has anyone had experience with this pressing? It's the first US pressing from the Scranton plant, I believe.
    The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour

    Thanks,

    s
     
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  2. Fake Stereo on 3 tracks.

    The only AAA fully Stereo version is the German one from around 1971 onwards with A1/b3 matrix's.
     
  3. Bill

    Bill Senior Member

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    Thank Forum icon Dave Dexter for this. Muddy is too kind a word.
     
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  4. Allthingsmusic

    Allthingsmusic Well-Known Member

    Yes, the last three tracks are bogus stereo. It appears mids and highs on one channel bass on the other. This was a letdown for me back in the day when just discovering stereo.
     
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  5. Beebs

    Beebs Active Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks. I'm not sure what to do. I think he wants a refund, but it sounds like the problem is with the original recording, not me passing on a defective disc of some kind.
     
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  6. Bill

    Bill Senior Member

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    Not defective at all. That's what was released by Capitol in 1967.
     
  7. c-eling

    c-eling Love has no date of expiration...

    Exactly. Buyer should of done his homework :)
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Active Member Thread Starter

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    Thanks everyone. I always insist that buyers be satisfied, but this does feel like a different situation. Also, he's comparing the record to the 2009 remaster, which I already explained would sound different by definition of it being remastered. Thanks again.
     
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  9. c-eling

    c-eling Love has no date of expiration...

    Can I have a refund because my old Asia-Alpha's mastering and recording sounds like poop on ice? :D
     
  10. Beebs

    Beebs Active Member Thread Starter

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    One related question. Any thoughts on the sound quality of the 1969 US version with the green label? I just listened to a copy and I think it sounded better, but it's possible it's just in better condition. To be clear, I only listened to All You Need Is Love.
     
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  11. Paul Gase

    Paul Gase Everything is cheaper than it looks.

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    100% full stereo MMT was not available in 1969. It might be a better pressing, but still has the same masters, i.e. fake stereo tracks.
     
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  12. SKATTERBRANE

    SKATTERBRANE Forum Resident

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    Advice, don't sell him an original copy of Yesterday and Today then.
     
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  13. MGSeveral

    MGSeveral Forum Resident

    I was going through my discogs re beatles, and found I hadn't a MMT lp.

    Recently, got a Japanese one. It's very nice, wasn't expensive, seems new.

    I guess I'll have to play it. I'd have expected true stereo here. What are the chances, anyone?
     
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  14. AlienRendel

    AlienRendel Forum Resident

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    zero
     
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  15. MGSeveral

    MGSeveral Forum Resident

    Fair enough, ta.

    I do have the double 7" UK anyway. Oh, and the double cd version too.
     
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  16. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    It sucks.

    To get true stereo, go for a German Apple pressing or the 2012 LP. I forget what the proper matrix numbers are for the correct German pressing. I’m sure someone will be kind enough to provide it.

    Avoid all US Capitol and Apple LPs as well as the U.K. version (not EP). Also, steer clear of the Mobile Fidelity LP.
     
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  17. Anthology123

    Anthology123 Senior Member

    Among all my copies of MMT, I have the Capitol Green label, the Parlophone 1976 Gold vinyl, and the first MFSL vinyl and they ALL are sourced from that same muddy version. The only different is the MFSL version has the cleanest muddy sounding version of those three. So, if you wish to hear muddy with less surface
    noise from the vinyl...
     
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  18. Dinstun

    Dinstun Forum Resident

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    Apart from the German LP and before the 1988 digitally sourced LPs, were there any all true stereo vinyl versions of this album? I know there was a 1973 UK cassette that was all true stereo, but then the 1976 UK LP reverted to the inferior US master.
     
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  19. Tommyboy

    Tommyboy Senior Member

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    Perhaps there may be a Danish or Dutch pressing of MMT using German parts. I’m not sure.
     
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  20. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

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    Muddy: All You Need is Love
    Shrilly: Penny Lane.

    ...the remaining three songs (one of which is also fake stereo) of side two (which is where the fake stereo tracks are found)doesn't sound bad at all.
     
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  21. Cronverc

    Cronverc Forum Resident

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    Actually, I know for a fact that some of later (early to mid 1970's) Israeli pressings have German matrix numbers A-1/ B-3.
     
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  22. Beebs

    Beebs Active Member Thread Starter

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    Yeah, but that butcher cover is so ugly. I returned mine for a nice one of the Lads with suitcases.
     
  23. McLover

    McLover Forum Resident

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    Except for the King Lear portion of "I Am The Walrus" which starts from the "Sitting In An English Garden" forward to the end of the track which is rechanneled Stereo.
     
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  24. pbuzby

    pbuzby Forum Resident

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    It does have a stereo mix of "Strawberry Fields" not available many other places (also on the U.S. 1967-1970 LP).
     
  25. WhoDaresWins

    WhoDaresWins Forum Resident

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    I have a German reissue MMT (in think its 1973) with the same A1/B3 matrix. Is that considered the same True stereo as the original 1971 German MMT?

    I thought the true MMT German Stereo was the original first 1971 pressing?
     
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