Ortofon 2M Series PnP and Concordes for Technics SL-1200GR

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  1. DoF

    DoF Less is more... Thread Starter

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    By Ortofon do you mean Concordes?
     
  2. 4011021

    4011021 Forum Resident

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    Simply follow the GR manual and the manual that will come with the cartridge you will choose. That should be enough.
     
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  3. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    Right. Now that I think about it the Blue I had was the one Turntable Lab sells on a SH-4 headshell. It was perfect. Nice cart.

    Word is that the MK II 2M PnPs are superior as the weight of the headshell has been reduced so counterweight is unnecessary. I have not heard one.
     
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  4. DoF

    DoF Less is more... Thread Starter

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    I got these with my Technics:

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  5. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    I have a VM95SH. Amazing cart.
     
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  6. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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    How does one know what a "MK2" PnP is?
     
  7. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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    Did an alignment jig not arrive with the table?
     
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  8. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    2M.
     
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  9. 4011021

    4011021 Forum Resident

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    Try it, I'm pretty sure you'll be able. This is a good cartridge.
     
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  10. DoF

    DoF Less is more... Thread Starter

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    It did arrive too:

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  11. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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  12. SNDVSN

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    If you were to use the Technics gauge i'm guessing it's better to be slightly longer ie 52.5mm as slightly shorter?
     
  13. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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  14. The included Technics gauge is plenty sufficient to align a cartridge. I have a fancy one, but the Technics is all I use now.
     
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  15. daytona600

    daytona600 Forum Resident

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    PNP is the MM version of a SPU used by Audiophiles since the 1940s & the 1st moving coil cartridge & ranges to $5,000
    PNP also fitted by Technics for Audio shows

    Xpression
     
  16. DoF

    DoF Less is more... Thread Starter

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    the first pancake is always spoiled, some sibilance's there, I used Technics jig, and so called stupid protractor from Vinyl Engine - The Home of the Turntable

     
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  17. Benzion

    Benzion "Cogito, ergo sum" Forum Resident

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    PnP just means "plug n play". It may have been used since 1940's, but in today's world, it's not the optimal solution, or everyone would be using it and swearing by it. Please look around this forum and tell me honestly if you see prevalence of PnP carts here...
     
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  18. Tim1954

    Tim1954 Forum Resident

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    I wouldn’t put too much stock in this forum compared to places like TurntableNeedles or LPGear. If you order a premounted cart from those kind of places, it will arrive dialed in and ready to roll. Book it.
     
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  19. Big Blue

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    IMO, you’re all set with the 2M Blue that was included in your package. If you decide you want a different cartridge sound or want to try a more advanced stylus profile, then it’s time to shop, but for now I really think all you need to do is set up the 2M Blue and start enjoying some records.
     
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  20. Big Blue

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    I would think wrong is wrong, one way or the other, but I don’t see any reason not to get it right on. It’s really very easy to line up.
     
  21. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie Decisively Indecisive

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    Set up the Blue and see if it's not just cart related.
    Did the protractor disagree with the jig?
     
  22. DoF

    DoF Less is more... Thread Starter

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    There are some in my arsenal already, plus 2M Bronze now, Tonar Diabolic E, and Ortofon Stylus 10 styli

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  23. Big Blue

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    Unless the protractor is meant for the Technics alignment, it’s not going to work right with the overhange set by the gauge.
     
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  24. DoF

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    It was the first time I used the jig, it was a bit off the protractor null points, I am practising I guess.
     
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  25. DoF

    DoF Less is more... Thread Starter

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    Can you name the right Technics protractor, link me to one (from vinylengine.com), please.
     

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