You said: "Most real collectors who actually like vinyl tend to be the ones who will grade NM albums at VG+ and describe them, " and, "....many sellers who are actually collectors will grade what others would think are NM records as "VG+" albums." So tell this MA in English and MFA in Creative Writing where my comprehension skills are lacking? You are saying they grade NM albums as VG. You said it twice. Great. Thanks for the lecture, Ralph Waldo I'm trying to avoid the Johnny Rando kinda sellers who puts everything as NM and lets the top fly to the wind and hope no one gives a crap. I'm becoming more restrictive in my buying criteria. As to the VG ratings and sellers who are grading what others think as NM as VG, I'd never look at their listings because I filter for NM and would never give a VG graded listing a look. There are soooooooo many VG rated listings there is no way I'd search through all of them and find the seller grading what others would think are NM records as VG+ albums based on their description. Plus if I made a mistake and bought a VG that really was VG I'd be stuck because it was graded correctly and I'd have no recourse for a refund.