Paul McCartney/Wings-song by song thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Bemagnus, Sep 11, 2019.

  1. McCartney is always too self conscious on film. Same thing in ' A Hard Day's Night ' ( I'm sure I read Lennon mentioned how bad Macca was in this in a somewhat joking manner ) and in ' Help '.
    Even in ' Let It Be ' you can see he's ' aware' the camera is on him .
     
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  2. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    :)
    Very few rock-stars have turned out to more than mediocre actors. Paul is terrible but not more so than Dylan and countless others.
    Even though even in this context Broad Street is uniquely bad. It s terrible from start to finish.
    :)
     
  3. Who Cares

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    No Values

    Great rock song. A simple and strong performance with fantastic vocals, crazy lyrics and music.

    Lyrics:

    I hear them telling me that you're selling off the furniture
    And even keep my personalised autographs
    You might as well go all the way and sell your granny to the zoo.

    And while you're at it, may I go to my psychiatrist ?
    He's making money out of making me laugh
    But I don't mind, I wish that I could say the same about you

    It seems to me that you've still got no values,
    Oh you know you're not so hot, no values
    You know you've got a lot, but no values
    And I'll be glad if you went away again
    No values…No values…No values at all

    The city shark is at the dark end of the alleyway
    You pays your money and you takes your choice
    The artful dodger says he wants to pick a pocket or two

    But you, you've taken up a place in high society
    A personal friend of messrs rolls and royce
    Got them all convinced that everything you say to them is true

    It seems to me that you've still got no values
    Oh you know you're not so hot, no values
    You know you've got a lot, but no values
    And I'd be glad if you went away again.
    No values…No values…No values at all

    I like your wife's smile, I like her car
    If I had your lifestyle, I wouldn't go far wrong
    On the waters of life you row your boat
    Into the strongest tide that you can find
    On the darkest of nights we were two of a kind
    We went through it all before the tide went out
    And left us stranded on the shore
    How was I to know
    How was I to know

    Well you ain't got no values
    You know you think you're hot, no values
    You know, you've got a lot, no values,
    And I'd be glad if you went away again
    No values, yeah... No values, yeah… No values at all

    Credits:

    Produced by George Martin
    Written by Paul McCartney
    Bass, Vocals by Paul McCartney
    Backing Vocals, Keyboards by Linda McCartney
    Drums by Ringo Starr
    Backing Vocals, Electric Guitar by Dave Edmunds
    Backing Vocals, Electric Guitar by Chris Spedding
    Percussion by Jody Lindscott
    Engineer: Geoff Emerick, John Kelly
    Engineer assistant: Stuart Breed, Jon Jacobs
    Label: Parlophone
    Release Date: October 22, 1984
    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios / AIR Studios, London, UK / CTS Studios, London, UK
    Length: 4:12 minutes

    Paul's own words:

    From No Values (song)

    "There are not many incidents in the film that I have actually dreamed myself, but this song I really did dream about. I was on holiday and just as I was waking up I was in a dream and I was watching the Rolling Stones.

    They were all there, Bill, Charlie, Keith and all the lads; and Mick was up there singing, “No values, seems to me that you’ve still got no values…” I couldn’t quite hear all the lyrics but I heard all the chorus and I woke up and thought I really like that song that they do. Then I thought, Hey, wait a minute – there is no song called “No Values”. They don’t do that song. My brain had just created it, or however it happens.

    So I thought well, there it is, I’ve got this new song called “No Values”, and I checked that the Stones really hadn’t done it, and just set about writing it.

    I haven’t told Mick Jagger – he’d probably claim the copyright!"

    Source: "Give My Regards To Broad Street” book, Pavilion Books, 1984
     
  4. Who Cares

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    More about No Values...

    1980 rehearsal:

     
  5. Helter Skelter

    Helter Skelter A Dark Horse

    I actually think Ringo is worse than Paul in Broad Street.
    Probably because he was always sloshed at that time.
     
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  6. What kind of lyric is this?
    There's a couple of things that annoy me about McCartney:
    1) his often bad album covers
    2) his sometimes ( much too often !) crappy , lazy, nonsensical lyrics.
     
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  7. Guy Smiley

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    Yep. Said I didn’t want to get too far off topic, so I tried to keep it tied to Paul at least. Agreed that’s probably enough for this thread though. Thanks for understanding.
     
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  8. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    To that one can add his various hair-styles
    :)
     
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  9. Ha!
    That could be a sub-topic on this thread :
    ' What Was Macca's Worst Hairstyle ? '

    He always looked cool in the Beatles years and into the early 70s but he adapted some cringeworthy crops after that. Linda 's influence?
     
  10. Bailes

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    No Values - I actually sorta think this is better than Not Such a Bad Boy. Great song.
     
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  11. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    Next one
    Good Night princess
    I think Paul is very good at this sort of ”granny”-things and I kind of enjoy this one.
    Sort of
     
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  12. I see someone started a thread about an upcoming McCartney documentary.
    I wasn't consulted for it. Was anyone here ? Who Cares , were you ?
     
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  13. Who Cares

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  14. Who Cares

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    Mick Jagger wrote it :)
     
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  15. Bailes

    Bailes Billy Shears

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    Goodnight Princess - Not terrible, but not particularly memorable.
     
  16. We have a winner. Wow.
     
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  17. Who Cares

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    Goodnight Princess

    A beautiful 1920s or 1940s instrumental song.

    Credits:

    Produced by George Martin
    Written by Paul McCartney
    Narration by Paul McCartney
    Violin by Tony Gilbert, Pat Halling, Laurie Lewis, Raymond Keenlyside
    Trumpet by Ronnie Hughes, Bobby Haughey
    Trombone by Chris Smith
    Electric Guitar, Guitar by Eric Ford
    Double Bass by Russ Stableford
    Piano by Gerry Butler
    Alto Sax, Clarinet by Derek Grossmith
    Clarinet, Tenor Sax by Eddie Mordue
    Tenor Sax by Vic Ash
    Drums, Percussion by John Dean
    Engineer: Geoff Emerick, John Kelly
    Engineer assistant: Stuart Breed, Jon Jacobs
    Label: Parlophone
    Release Date: October 22, 1984
    Recorded at Abbey Road Studios / AIR Studios, London, UK / CTS Studios, London, UK
    Length: 3:57 minutes
     
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  18. I see a lot of people praising this song and that song on ' Give My Regards..' and that's fine. The heart likes what it likes. But my heart ( and mind ) tell me the album is absolutely one of his lesser efforts and the whole movie project was ill-advised and a low point in his career.
     
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  19. Who Cares

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    More about Goodnight Princess...

    The song was available on the CD version of the album.

    The Columbia CD has a different name, Goodnight Lonely Princess:

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  20. kaztor

    kaztor Music is the Best

    I do hear the influences, but still think he put his own twist on things that makes his material stand out on it’s own terms. Iow he’s not merely aping Paul.
     
  21. kaztor

    kaztor Music is the Best

    No Values:
    This great rocker would’ve felt perfectly at home on Back To The Egg. People slag Paul for doing this project while he was adding some pretty stellar new material to his arsenal. I love how he doesn’t try to do more than the song needs, much like on the previous selection. Also love the chords after the chorus.
    Great stuff! :thumbsup:

    Goodnight Princess:
    A nice little ‘granny’ song to wrap things up.
    It goes on for a bit given it’s genre, but it’s still pretty effective.
     
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  22. kaztor

    kaztor Music is the Best

    I don’t know. Can’t say I’ve got much of a problem with the four new songs. Not really your thing, I suppose?

    Okay, so it’s no artistical fiësta, but I do think the soundtrack has a nice flow. The Silly Love Songs remake I admit is a bit of a turkey, but I suppose he was trying to give the song a different impulse.
    Some of the ‘recent’ song redo’s are unnecessary, but not badly done. The Beatles ‘covers’ are well done too.

    The thing is.... I just think it’s fun.
    The Play-out version of NMLN sits there at the end, so it’s no biggie. The endless string of remixes I fervently block that out of my mind and it’s also not part of the shebang, so I don’t hold it against the project.
    I’m not trying to make too much out of it and think it’s an entertaining romp throughout his career with Paul himself as the host. And also, I think the film was just an excuse to make a mega-video, which was pretty much the thing in those MTV-days, and also an update on his career since The Beatles had five movies (if you count MMT and YS) to augment their music.

    In other words, the obliteration this got is waaaay over the top, imo.
     
  23. Bruce M.

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    True. The project was ill-conceived from start to finish. That said, "No Values" is a good, solid rocker and probably my favorite Paul track from this period. The original tunes on the Broad Street soundtrack deserved better than they got. Had they appeared on, say, Flowers in the Dirt, they'd all be remembered as solid Paul tracks. As it is, they're basically forgotten except for us hardcore fans.
     
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  24. Bemagnus

    Bemagnus Music is fun Thread Starter

    Next one
    We all Stand together
    An unlikely UK hit I find this much maligned song close to being a masterpiece.
    It s a song aimed for a fairly-tail cartoon ans should be judged as one. Ever since Yellow Submarine Paul has been doin stuff like this but hardly as good and magical as the Frog-song
    Great melody and wonderous arrangement I love it
    Of course it didn t do Pauls image much good but why should we care. His talents runs far out of the narrow field of rock n roll
     
  25. Piiijiii

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    The best song on the "Broad Street" album is "The Long And Winding Road". I said it!

    No Values/Goodnight Princess/We All Stand Together
    ~ 3 songs to discuss and what a diversity! Can't be said about most artists.

    No Values 2/5 ~ Like many said a solid rocker. Some think that's a good thing, I don't.

    Goodnight Princess 3.5/5 ~ Sounds like a hit from the 20's - I like it. Add some lyrics and it would be a nice addition to the "Kisses" album.

    We All Stand Together 3.5/5 ~ Designed for an animated film and Paul is very, very good at that. I played that to death back in 1984.
     
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