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Pink Floyd Discovery Box is here...

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by TONEPUB, Sep 16, 2011.

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  1. stricee

    stricee Forum Resident

    sorry hutlock...but lighten up man just tryin to help...sheez
     
  2. Jerry Horne

    Jerry Horne Peace Be With You.

    Location:
    West Coast
    Dreaming and hoping for Japanese SHM mini-lp sleeve pressings using the 2011 remasters. Any chance? I'm just dying to already purchase this catalog again :)
     
  3. Runt

    Runt Forum Resident

    Location:
    Motor City
    The price of those will be more like buying the catalog SEVERAL times again. ;)
     
  4. Jerry Horne

    Jerry Horne Peace Be With You.

    Location:
    West Coast
    True! But c'mon - it's Floyd!
     
  5. botley

    botley Forum Resident

    "Clearly louder"? I saw an EAC rip log claiming that this 2011 disc is the quietest CD of The Division Bell yet... not a single 100% peak.
     
  6. LarryT

    LarryT Forum Resident

    Location:
    Nowhere Man, USA
    Did they have the Lil' Wayne/Nick Mason "Duets" album on sale?

    :D
     
  7. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

    Location:
    Cleveland, OH, USA
    They have T-shirts in boxes, but they aren't including any music. In my Target, they were actually on the same display rack as the Beatles 45's/T-shirt sets, in the back wall of the music department (where no one will ever find them... :sigh:)
     
  8. Rfi

    Rfi New Member

    Location:
    Northern KY Area
    EAC peak percents for reference/comparison to old masters/issues

    Lapse of reason
    65.7 77.8 75.8 76.3 76.4 79.0 75.5 46.7 77.7 46.3 78.6

    atom heart mother
    100 90.1 100 100 100

    more
    80 100 52.3 93.9 81.5 94.7 81.0 100 100 69.1 94.1 97.1

    obscured by clouds
    100 100 99.2 99.0 100 99.8 100 95.2 100 99.8

    division bell
    68.7 85.6 86.2 82.3 84.3 70.6 86.7 86.1 86.8 84.2 86.1

    final cut
    100.0 100.0 46.8 77.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 69.7 100.0 100.0 94.6

    ummagumma
    100.0 80.0 96.2 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 87.5 100.0 52.2

    the wall
    100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 67.1 67.6 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 33.0

    meddle
    100.0 89.7 100.0 100.0 70.1 100.0

    dsotm
    40.6 % 92.8 % 99.5 % 96.6 % 98.4 % 100.0 % 90.6 % 100.0 % 99.7 % 100.0 %

    animals
    52.8 100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 50.6 %

    saucerful
    100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 % 100.0 %

    piper
    87.0 82.2 82.2 87.0 87.0 87.0 87.0 87.0 86.8 87.0 87.0

    meddle
    100.0 89.7 100.0 100.0 70.1 100.0
     
  9. botley

    botley Forum Resident

    You ripped these yourself? Or found them somewhere online? I'm trying to independently confirm another online source.
     
  10. Rfi

    Rfi New Member

    Location:
    Northern KY Area
    Ripped myself using Plextor Premium test and copy mode with no c2, cache disabled. Basically the foolproof method of ripping CDs with EAC. CRCs (think of them as file signatures) matched for all tracks to ensure every single sector was copied correctly. I go the whole nine yards when porting over my music to my HTPC :)
     
  11. floyd

    floyd Senior Member

    Location:
    Spring Green, WI
    Is there a simple way of telling me what these numbers tell you. I see people posting them but it is hard to figure what it all means. I would think 100% would be good but then you see numbers much lower.
     
  12. Rfi

    Rfi New Member

    Location:
    Northern KY Area
    The peak level -- where the loudest part of the track goes to in % -- 100% meaning at least one peak hits 0dB RMS. Lower than 100% means that it wasn't normalized to 0dB RMS. The significance of peak values is for comparison to old issues, if all track peak %s match up it usually means they are the same mastering.

    EDIT- Example of a track that hits 100%, with the peaks circled. http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-rns
     
  13. Lyle_JP

    Lyle_JP Forum Curmudgeon

    Location:
    Danville, CA, US
    By themselves, the numbers tell you nothing. Just because something peaks at 100% doesn't mean it's clipped. But if everything peaks at 100%, it can be hint that some limiting/brickwalling might be going on.

    But mostly, these EAC peak level numbers help us identify what unique master a CD is made from, when packaging alone doesn't tell the whole story. Since all these CDs are supposed to be new, that doesn't really apply here.

    So other than to prove these new CDs are indeed unique masters, the numbers don't tell much at all.
     
  14. ChrisPineo

    ChrisPineo Active Member

    Location:
    Dade City, FL
    I didn't get the discovery box but I did get 8 of the CDs individually and I have to say the packaging is disappointing. The front covers and artwork are vivid and thats good but they should replicate the front and back covers of the original vinyl. The CDs themselves should replicate the label on the vinyl or come close unless label rights prohibit it (ex. Rhino redoing Chicago's Columbia catalog, obviously they can't replicate a Columbia label). They only did the front covers (and thats on most of them).

    I know most CDs don't do all of that but a high quality reissue campaign should IMHO.

    Not to mention the digipak with slots and no covers. Have to be careful not to scratch them.

    The booklets and labels do look very nice so that's good but you can't do better (again, IMO) than replicate the original vinyl issue as much as possible. The cute little designs on the CDs aren't doing it for me. Sorry. My bad for not doing more careful research.

    And Itunes is plastering "2011 Remaster" on the CDs and tracks. Ugh!

    OK, rant over. The sound is the thing and I haven't had the chance to listen yet. And again, they do look very nice.
     
  15. Colocally

    Colocally One Of The New Wave Boys

    Location:
    Surrey BC.
    Easy enough to fix.
     
  16. ChrisPineo

    ChrisPineo Active Member

    Location:
    Dade City, FL
    You're right of course but a bit of a pain. But it does let me keep the original in tact long enough to cut and paste the artwork instead of looking for it on Amazon. Its not a biggie. :)
     
  17. LivingForever

    LivingForever Forum Arachibutyrophobic

    I wonder why they'd make the Momentary Lapse and Division Bell remasters so quiet compared to the others?

    Surely it's a good thing to have at least 1 of the tracks peak at 100% otherwise it's just wasted headroom?
     
  18. Rfi

    Rfi New Member

    Location:
    Northern KY Area
    Indeed. I looked at the waveforms for tracks that were at 100% and I did not see ANY evidence of hard limiting. I also zoomed in on quiet passages and did not see the hallmarks of NR.
     
  19. Rfi

    Rfi New Member

    Location:
    Northern KY Area
    Indeed, to use the 16-bit bandwidth most efficiently it is best for the studio to normalize the highest peak to 0dB RMS (without use of hard limiting/compression obviously).

    Likewise when playing via S/PDIF, HDMI, or other digital outs, keep the volume of the software, OS, etc at 100% to get the most of your bits. Use only the amp/receiver to control volume.
     
  20. Doug Schiller

    Doug Schiller Forum Resident

    Location:
    Tampa Bay
    So what is the not so early consensus?
    No difference? Worth picking up?
     
  21. Masza

    Masza Forum Resident

    Location:
    Finland
    Yes, that's little strange. I listened AMLOR quickly and it sounded a bit compressed and Gilmour's guitar had 'distortion' in Dogs of War for example, but has it always been like that? I mean that is it a problem with the recording and mixing of the album?
     
  22. MikeT

    MikeT Prior Forum Cretin and Current Impatient Creep

    Location:
    New Jersey, USA
    I got my discovery box from CD Universe today, and much to my surprise (not sure if this was posted yet or not by anyone else), there was a very high quality T-shirt in the box. My Discovery box came packed inside a larger cardboard box, with the Discovery box in it's original cardboard box (unopened). This tells me the T-Shirt I received was probably a "spiff" that they (Cd Universe) included as a nice gesture.

    The t-shirt is black with the Dark Side of the Moon rainbow logo on both sides. The front of the shirt says "Why Pink Floyd?", the back of the shirt says 9:27:11 with www.whypinkfloyd.com in small letters under the date. A nice surprise!!

    Now to start listening to all the discs.
     
  23. imthewalrus79

    imthewalrus79 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Reading, PA, USA
    Having the OBTW set, I've been on the fence about getting the Discovery box set. Now that people have started sampling these remasters, would you say that all of these remasters are good enough to get the box? Or would you say that you'd only upgrade certain albums and, if so, which ones?
     
  24. Rfi

    Rfi New Member

    Location:
    Northern KY Area
    I like all that I've heard so far the best as far as the CD versions go (I have not heard the Sax remasters however).

    I have yet to critically compare any to the needledrops I had professionally done of the vinyl pressings I own yet. The CBS 40AP Japanese LP for The Wall is gonna be a tough one to beat, but anything's possible.
     
  25. Lyle_JP

    Lyle_JP Forum Curmudgeon

    Location:
    Danville, CA, US
    The only one I've listened to so far is Animals. And so far, I like everything I hear. No shrill top end, very clear vocals (you can even hear breathing clearly), and no loudness fatigue. But I'm listening to it "in a vacuum" so to speak, since my Shine On version is at home. I'll do a side-by-side tonight (along with Meddle and Division Bell) and let you all know what I think then.

    If the rest of the discs are up to this quality, then I can safely say they're worth a first time purchase (especially at $10 a pop). I'm not ready to say if they're worth an upgrade yet.
     
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