Pink Floyd - Fictional Second Album with Syd Barrett

I remember this one from the box set thread. I like your idea a lot!

 

I'm probably going to steal it. Thanks!

 

I actually have 6 Pink Floyd albums planned with Syd on every track. One is Stockholm live - that was a no-brainer. The first is early stuff. The second is "Projection" - the Joe Boyd / Sound Techniques sessions. Then "Piper". They could have released "Speak!" and "Stockholm" in summer '68 as a stop-gap to give them more time to work on ASOS.

BTW, I created my own EQ mix edit of "Set the Controls" that highlights Syd's guitar line.

 

We might be able to use the live version from the Stockholm show in lieu of the lost studio cut.

 

Wow, such great ideas! Awesome to see, in fact, how many material exists with Syd's contributions!

And, for the early Sound Techniques material, I also created an album for it. This would've been an actual debut album, and Piper would be the second release.^^

The Pink Floyd
Release: April 1967, Columbia Records UK
Recorded at Sound Techniques Chelsea by Joe Boyd (Jan-March 1967)



Side 1
Arnold Layne
Interstellar Overdrive

Side 2
Nick's Boogie
Candy And A Currant Bun


Actually, in an earlier version of this, I included 'See Emily Play' on Side 2 as Track 1, but (besides it was record at the same location around the time) it was a Norman Smith production.

 

Years ago I was against the idea of studio AND live recordings combined on one album, but after I got to know the Cream discography, for example, I don't "hate" these release formats anymore.^^
So actually an inclusion of 'Reaction In G' recorded Live in Stockholm wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

Here's another effort to assemble the mythical sophomore LP with Syd.

Albums That Never Were: Pink Floyd - The Shape of Questions to Heaven (1968) »

 

Ah yeah, wanted to mention @soniclovenoize anyway. He makes great album creations!

 

The artwork I posted? Sure you can use it, man

 

Especially if it is going to be the sound quality that is rumored.

 

Well, we heard 'Interstellar Overdrive' from the Stockholm performance in the box set trailer which, in my opinion, sounds surprisingly great. So, I'm a bit optimistic on this one.

 

Slight variation, but here's a hypothetical 1968 Syd album. It's uses material either worked on in 1968, or considered for work in 1968. Not as good as what we got, but fun to listen to nonetheless.

Syd Barrett- The Open Road
Side 1
Lanky (Part1)
Scream Thy Last Scream
Swan Lee
Vegetable Man
In The Beechwoods
Late Night
Side 2
Rhamadan

 

A couple versions I doodled at lunch the other day.... I did use Beechwoods. And if Traffic & Cream could include live tracks on their albums, I'm taking liberties with Reaction In G (even if Floyd wouldn't have)....

Side One
Jug Band Blues
Set the Controls
Remember a Day (if only there were a studio One In a Million to insert here)
Scream Thy Last Scream

Side Two
Reaction In G
Paint Box
Beechwoods
Vegetable Man

or

Side One
Scream Thy Last Scream
Reaction In G
Set the Controls
Apples and Oranges
Paint Box

Side Two
Remember a Day
Beechwoods
Vegetable Man
Jug Band Blues

I keep thinking Julia Dream would fit so well with these songs, too....

 

Here's a "lost" Syd album I burned together a few years ago. (My original version moved Dylan Blues up to 2nd song, but I think it's gotta be Opel.)

Lanky, Pt. 2
Opel
Word Song
Bob Dylan Blues
Two of a Kind
Lanky, Pt. 1
Milky Way
Swan Lee
Dolly Rocker
Birdie Hop
Let's Split

Rhamadan (bonus track)

 

To begin with, we have to know which tracks are we 'allowed' to pick up for this fictional LP : tracks that we have (including the ones coming in the box set) or tracks that we could have had ? Of course, my choice would be the first, since I'm not keen on building an LP, even fictional, that I could not listen to.
I would also only choose 1967 songs, and not include Latham, which wasn't recorded for that purpose.
So I do mostly agree with Luke's tracklist, allthough, as I already mentionned it, in the box set thread, not in the same order.
I won't repeat it again, cause everyone has his tastes and sensitivity, but I'd like to insist on the fact that we'd have to relieve ourselves from the Piper tracklist, and build a LP which works by itself, and take care of the crucial slots on an album : opener and closer. Also, since it would have been a LP Vinyl, Side-A closer and Side-B opener are important too.
Having said that, it would be impossible for me to close the LP with something else than 'Jugband Blues'.
But the opener is more free, I'd say.
My choice would be 'Reaction In G' (yes, the live Stockholm version), since it's rocking and it's in mono also, so I don't think it would work elsewhere, bar the beginning of B-side maybe.
For the rest, it depends, as i said, of tastes and sensitivity.

To finish with, I'd like to congrat Andrew for his nice cover. It's very good and the art and colour fit very well with the mood of the LP. However, I would have prefer an autumn picture of the band, with Nick wearing mustache, and Syd staring at you, through you, and through the wall behind you (like the b&w one inside the church or the pally, don't know where it is). May I ask if you could 'try it another way' Andrew ? ;-)

 

I would second seeing what Andrew could do with those cool pictures you reference. I love those photos. And I love what Andrew is doing with the liquid light stuff.

 

I think there is a chance that Stockholm will sound so good, it may not sound very live. It will be very interesting to hear.

 

Andrew, I do not think your album cover image is displaying anymore. Can you re-post it so I can get it saved?

Thanks!

 

I use Tumblr for this and photos won't be deleted until I delete them by myself actually. The album cover should still be there...
Try this out: https://66.media.tumblr.com/d86a8f9f5f95920e6f6644581ca5df06/tumblr_ogatkqFsyI1r9d6kgo1_r1_1280.jpg

 

Thanks so much for enjoying my artwork ideas
Usually I work with high resolution pictures to get a better result, I couldn't find a pro shot picture of the band from late 1967 unfortunately.
So I chose that (semi-) rare band photo with the thought in mind like no one's gonna recognize if this photo was made much earlier than summer '67 or something.^^

Of course I will try some other artwork for this. Always like to do experiments with liquid light show pictures also.

 

It is earlier, but I agree it's a very nice picture and it flows very well with the artwork.
I like it actually.
If you have the Piper 1994 remaster CD, the picture I mentionned is beside 'The Gnome' lyrics.

 

Ah yeah, that church photo... Good choice, how could I forgot that pic!
Just found another photo of the band during the latter time with Syd. Made a solarize effect over it and pasted it to the same liquid lights. Hope this fits better.

 

There was a second LP. It's called "Ummagumma".
Syd telepathically phoned in his performance.
He's all over the place on that one, actually.

 

My version of of a 2nd Pink Floyd album includes outtakes/singles and one song that Syd worked on in 1968 for early 'Madcap Laughs' sessions, and focuses more on songs.. so no room for the lengthy 'Saucerful of Secrets' title track, which may become a tune played live & held-over for the "Man and the Journey" album the following year.

Side 1:
Let there be more light
Remember a day
Set the controls for the heart of the sun
See saw
Late night

Side 2
It would be so nice
Apples and oranges (note: instead of issuing it as a single in late 1967, they abandon the 1967 take & re-record it with the kinks/bad production ironed out.. more about singles below..)
Paintbox
Julia Dream
Scream thy last scream
Jugband blues

As far as singles go, the management cuts a deal with their American label to release albums with the same tracklist on both sides of the Atlantic, but concede that singles can be taken from album tracks..

In that scenario, the late 1967 single would be Vegetable Man b/w Reaction in G (last non-album single in a while)

First single off the album would be Let there be more Light b/w Corporal Clegg

Second Single from the album would be Paint Box b/w Swan Lee (Silas Lang)

Then a 3rd (non album) single of Point me at the sky b/w Careful with that Axe Eugene as per normal towards the end of 1968.