Pink Floyd - Nakamichi Tapes. How much do we really know about them?

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  1. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Beatles Live At The Hollywood Bowl remix
    Beatles 1 (and 1+) remix
    Beatles Sgt Pepper Remix
    Beatles White Album remix

    Sorry misunderstood the question. Hard to tell. Some obvious cases on sgt pepper wher things that were recorded together on one track is now panned apart from eachother. But it was used extensively across all releases to nudge things that were buried in the mix a little forward. Most somgs on the 1+ set had some demixing going on. All songs on Hollywood Bowl had demixing. Much of Pepper. Though less so on the white album reportedly.
     
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  2. BillyMacQ

    BillyMacQ Forum Resident

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    I'm listening to a recording of their show in Los Angeles during the 1975 WYWH tour. Wow. The sound quality is stunning for an audience recording. You can hear every instrument clearly. And the audience is so quiet! Gutsy move coming out of the gate with two brand new songs in a row, too. Raving and Drooling (Sheep) and You've Got to Be Crazy (Dogs). The only downside is Roger and David don't sing particularly well. I wonder why that was? They're both good singers. Maybe not technically, but they have pleasing voices. I can't imagine they had trouble hearing themselves on stage. Vexing.

    Anyway, sorry for quick off-topic tangent. A live recording from the Animals tour would be most welcomed here.

    Love,
    Billy
     
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  3. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    Mike Millard was a master audience taper.

    Mike Millard - Wikipedia
    https://kernelmag.dailydot.com/features/report/6498/the-tragic-tale-of-a-legendary-concert-taper/#
     
  4. originalsnuffy

    originalsnuffy Socially distant and unstuck in time

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    I may be off base, but I think the Pink Floyd show in question was 1974. At the time neither Wish You Were Here or Animals had been released; and some Animals songs had different lyrics and titles (such as Raving and Drooling). They did play DSOTM all the way through. And a ton of people were busted for smoking joints. I saw a joint get passed down a row and the entire row was then escorted out by the cops.

    The tour program was a kind of comic book by the way.
     
  5. posnera

    posnera Forum Resident

    1972-73 DSOTM tour did not include the early versions of Animals.
    1974 British Winter Tour did, but did not come to LA.

    You are almost certainly thinking of the 1975 LA Sports Arena show (taped by Millard)

    Many were arrested - What of those 511 arrested at the Pink Floyd concert in 1975?

    Tour program comic book - Pink Floyd 'Comic' Tour Book 1975 - Pink Floyd - A Fleeting Glimpse

    Set 1:
    Raving and Drooling
    You Gotta Be Crazy
    Shine On
    Have A Cigar
    Shine On

    Set 2:
    DSOTM

    Encore:
    Echoes

     
  6. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Searching For Simplicity

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    Geez, why not?
     
  7. BillyMacQ

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    Yes sir, that's the one. First set ends with Roger haranguing the security guards lurking in front of the stage. He gives them an earful about harassing the people up front. It's a classic Roger rant.
    And yes, according to my notes, another sweet Mike the Mic recording indeed. The sound is just fantastic and that is really what I think, and oh by the way, which one's...

    Love,
    Billy
     
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  8. bettsaj

    bettsaj “I'm in competition with myself and I'm losing.” Thread Starter

    Now, I have the MSG 77-07-02 recording, the so called "Audiophile" version and although the recording is fuller, I find it too top endy. The person recording it must have been more central to the stage as the audio picture is more balanced than others (Oakland springs to mind where it's not so balanced sound wise) However MSG suffers with those damned firecrackers, and it being so echoey... not brilliant, and in my opinion not as good as Oakland, which is a shame as the performance I feel was better at MSG.

    Which of the 77 Floyd recordings are known 'Millard' recordings?
     
  9. penguinzzz

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    No PF Millards from 77. I guess he didn’t fancy Anaheim Stadium.
     
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  10. bettsaj

    bettsaj “I'm in competition with myself and I'm losing.” Thread Starter

    Correct..... They didn't ever actually tour WYWH... It was just called "The North American Tour". In reality it was just the backend of the Dark Side tour before that wrapped up, as they were still performing that in its entirety at that point.

    The tour program was this which is from 1975, and likely used at the end of 74 too I believe

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  11. aphexj

    aphexj Sound mind & body

    They need Alex 'Stormy' Mundy on the case
     
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  12. kanakaris

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    Don't like it. What can i say .I am listening to Floyd for decades but this album doesn't touch me ...
     
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  13. aphexj

    aphexj Sound mind & body

    If you like Wish You Were Here... this is the only tour where they played the whole thing
     
  14. bettsaj

    bettsaj “I'm in competition with myself and I'm losing.” Thread Starter

    To each their own...... I actually think it was a defining album. Up until then they had recorded Dark Side and WYWH both of which were awash with keyboards, and glossy production. Then Animals came out, during the surging Punk era and they released an album as angry as some of the Punk music out there. I love it.... It's my favourite album by them and one I always return to.
     
  15. Jerquee

    Jerquee Take this, brother, may it serve you well.

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  16. LarsO

    LarsO Forum Resident

    Interesting to note that the entire 1st set was unreleased material. Wish You Were Here was released in September that year. It is often called the WYWH tour but I’m not sure it was actually billed that way.
     
  17. bettsaj

    bettsaj “I'm in competition with myself and I'm losing.” Thread Starter

    It wasn't..... It was the back end of the Dark Side tour
     
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  18. Kate_C.

    Kate_C. abyssus abyssum invocat

    A remarkable assessment! I'd never considered from this perspective of contemporary context, though I've often felt the brilliant lyrical work of Animals was coloured by Orwellian themes; and the iconoclasm of "1984" and "Animal Farm" is indeed punk.
     
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  19. pool_of_tears

    pool_of_tears Searching For Simplicity

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    Ok. I can dig that.
     
  20. originalsnuffy

    originalsnuffy Socially distant and unstuck in time

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    I stand corrected; the show in LA from 1975 correctly describes the show that I went to .

    Definitely not billed as WYWH tour; that had not been released. When WYWH did come out, we were surprised that some of the songs that ended up on Animals were not included. We all just figured that the first set was the forthcoming album; not album(s).
     
  21. marcb

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    See post #31 for examples of old mono recordings where instruments have been separated digitally to create stereo mixes.
     
  22. Octavian

    Octavian Forum Resident

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    Hollywood Bowl obviously, but otherwise I can only hear one instance of demixing that they used on any of the other sets, which would be the Sgt. Pepper Reprise where they isolated the piano and lead guitar from the backing track.

    Otherwise, to me it sounds like most of the isolations are from the bounced tracks.
     
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  23. Octavian

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    Sure I was just mostly talking about Beatles remixes. I enjoy nice mono to stereo mixes and I have my own YouTube channel where I try to improve the stereo image myself using demixing software, for example what I did with Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye

     
  24. Kim Olesen

    Kim Olesen Gently weeping guitarist.

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    Sources told me this: Just because sounds are panned the same place does not mean demixing tech weren’t used. Indeed they were used subtly in most cases.
     
  25. Octavian

    Octavian Forum Resident

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    Interesting, I wish I could get the specifics on what they did. I thought the demixing effort in the Reprise was quite amateurish
     
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