Pink Floyd The Later Years - Specul/ation (Pre-release)

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  1. Kalli

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    Isn't it a shame that we don't have The Great Gig up to now. It is by far the best live version of this song ever. It took me a lot of effort to extract audio from my VHS tape in the old days and I never was satisfied with the result. THIS is a must for the new box! The other one is Welcome To The Machine.
     
  2. floydfan2410

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    I am pretty sure there are good Momentary Lapse and Division Bell demos that could be included.
    On the Secret Rareties bootleg there are some very interesting demos from the 1993 sessions, some clearly used on The Endless River but some are still unreleased :)
     
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  3. mattazing

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    This box would be the perfect chance to release a couple of these 1994 shows! Let's hope.
     
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  4. mastaflatch

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    I'm not familiar with their live shows from AMLOR and TDB tours except from the official releases and Knebworth. Save for the last solo in Comfortably Numb and the intro for Run Like Hell, are there any major differences between shows, enough to justify multiple discs?
     
  5. Sevoflurane

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    As far as the period between the Early Years / Gilmour years goes there are still things like the OBC 5.1, Meddle 5.1 and Animals 5.1 out there as well as Wall / Final Cut era, I suppose.

    When can we expect an official announcement for the Later Years box?
     
  6. andrewskyDE

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    Somehow I thought it will also cover the period of The Endless River. But probably there's not much left from these sessions.
    Well, hope we gonna see some release of The Big Spliff in the set.
     
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  7. andrewskyDE

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    In case the set is coming in the very end of 2019, I guess the announcement will be around July/August.
     
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  8. mattazing

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    The setlist didn't change enough to probably justify an extra complete live show, but I'd buy any release containing an alternate live Sorrow or CN from 1994!
     
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  9. mastaflatch

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    Ah yes, forgot about Sorrow. For me, different shows than the official ones would be a treat - I mentioned them before in this thread but here they are again:
    - Wish You Were Here with Billy Corgan
    - Fat Old Sun and Great Gig in the Sky from Steven O'Rourke's funeral (doubt this will ever be released though)
    - Arnold Layne at the Barbican

    I'm much more interested in truly unreleased stuff like studio rehearsals, demos/works in progress, studio jams etc. Gilmour talked about High Hopes demo which was perfect as it was save for the ''tempo that wavered a bit'' - I'd like to hear that becuse he said they might not have been able to capture that same emotion in the official version.
    There must also exist this bunch of songs that were deemed 'not floydian enough'' by the record company before AMLOR... Peace Be with You, etc. This is the stuff that whets my appetite.
     
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  10. markreed

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    The TDB tour in 1994 ran two basic setlists with a standard night approach and a Dark Side of The Moon variant (which started from July to the end of the tour). The DSOTM set is the format chosen for both video and audio of Pulse, so yes, there will be a difference with 4-5 songs changing out.
     
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  11. rontoon

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    It will cover Endless River. My math was off! :doh: AMLOR, Division Bell and Endless River.
    AFAIK, the 5.1 mixes of OBC and Meddle created by Andy will never see the light of day since these were in James Guthrie's domain.
     
  12. mattazing

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    So you think there's a good chance that it will most likely include Momentary Lapse in 5.1 by Andy?
     
  13. rontoon

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    I'm not at liberty to confirm at this time but it seems like a reasonable assumption. :tiphat:
     
  14. Sevoflurane

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    That’s a shame IMHO. Andy did The Division Bell 5.1 IIRC and it’s a very nice mix. I’m glad the Meddle mix escaped into the wild too!
     
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  15. andrewskyDE

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    Well, any chance Guthrie will redo this sometime?
     
  16. Azza200

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    Gutherie takes ages to do mixes on albums he is still working on The Wall 5.1 audio he is known to work at a snails pace. Even if we don't get the complete Knebworth 90 show, i hope they at least include Sorrow, Comfortably Numb & RLH. CN solo from Knebworth is one of David's best imo the offical knebworth live album is mixed poor, its good that its on there but i would love to hear it mixed better & Sorrow from Knebworth is awesome
     
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  17. rontoon

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    Gilmour performed some great solos at Knebworth but I've never been a fan of Candy Dulfer's sax playing or Claire Torrey's horrendous vocals on Great Gig in the Sky. Painful! :yikes:
     
  18. floydfan2410

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    Been a while since I've listened to the Knebworth show.
    I have it on Vinyl and SD-Blu-ray.
    Hope it will be included on the box set.
     
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  19. Philrock90

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    I dont think i've really fully enjoyed a live version of great gig as for gilmour solos i still think his pompeii show is one of the best hes ever played its like the man gets even better as hes older
     
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  20. Azza200

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    I agree Gilmour's playing was on top form that night, Yeah Great Gig that night was awful and the worst version ever along with Venice 89's IMO The best Great Gig from that era is 1994's they all got it spot on that tour Sam Brown was brilliant
     
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  21. Azza200

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    The problem with Pompeii was the consent band member changes did not help & by Pompeii they had not gelled together at that point, that's why it comes across as a rough and not a tight performance compared to RTN. Yet by the time i saw David in September they were all on top form by that point. They should of at least filmed those last RAH shows as back up footage.

    The SA bonus songs you can tell its a well gelled tight band compared to the main performance where they are finding their feet with each other
    By the time i saw them in September they was on top form and David's playing was some of his best playing from the entire tour.

    2006 was his best tour.
     
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  22. Sevoflurane

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    Sam Brown was excellent on Delicate Sound of Thunder too. Ask Rachel Fury...
     
  23. rontoon

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    I disagree, I like the change up and what the new band members had to offer especially Chuck Leavell. Brought some new life into the band.
     
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  24. Azza200

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    I liked Chuck as an addition to the band & i like his vocals on CN & Chester Kamen was a brilliant addition he brought so much to the band IMO more then Phil. I'm not discrediting any of them just i feel that they had not gelled & were a tad rough at that point prob was just nerves being filmed.
     
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  25. Philrock90

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    I aswell prefer the later line up although when i saw Gilmour at the RAH on the 23rd? I think it was chuck was back with the stones but still a really good show i prefer the RTL tour to OAI
     
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