SH Spotlight Play the Kinks "Waterloo Sunset" in stereo, check and fix or improve your stereo playback with it!

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. MichaelXX2

    MichaelXX2 Forum Resident

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    There's an effect similar to this in the chorus of Jon Bellion's "Pre-Occupied:"

     
  2. Headphones can do the effect and get the background vocals to float out there. My headphones do it. The problem is that adjusting toe in and position of the headphones to maximize the effect gets to be rather difficult and not very practical unless you're the manufacturer designing the headphones and the ear pads.
     
  3. Thank you for the tip! This should be fun. Gunna have to find that Kinks album and Deep Forest.
     
  4. Shaker Steve

    Shaker Steve Beatles & Elvis Fan

    Sadly my 1999 Castle CD, a 20 track Best Of The Kinks has only two tracks in stereo, Victoria & Apeman. Is there a Stereo (or mostly stereo) comp out there?
     
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  5. Dee Zee

    Dee Zee Once Upon a Dream

    The 2014 Essential Kinks has the stereo version.
     
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  6. Arliss Renwick

    Arliss Renwick Well-Known Member

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    If you've got a turntable, the 1972 vinyl comp "The Kink Kronikles" (not hard to find) has it. I just set up my speakers using Steve's technique and WOW! This forum is seriously the best
     
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  7. Adam9

    Adam9 Senior Member

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    The CD as well.
     
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  8. CraigVC

    CraigVC Forum Resident

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    Is this Reprise CD the stereo mix?

    The Kinks - Something Else By The Kinks

    I checked my entire collection and I don't have a single item (CD, vinyl, compilation, anything) that includes the stereo version of "Waterloo Sunset." I have at least a handful of the mono version, though ...

    So I want to make sure I'm ordering a CD that features the stereo mix.
     
  9. Echoes Myron

    Echoes Myron Forum Resident

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    The Something Else stereo vinyl reissue does this. Just played on my new RP10 :)
     
  10. Just worked it with Essential Kinks CDs.

    Now I can sleep.


    Wow Victoria on this comp on my Oppo sounds Amazing.
     
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  11. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    What brought this thread back? Great song, great way to fix your stereo up. Make sure your speakers are wired correctly in phase before you play or you'll get nothing..
     
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  12. We all long for the simple life we lived back in ‘13. :tiphat:
     
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  13. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    The good old days.
     
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  14. CraigVC

    CraigVC Forum Resident

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    Thanks for the tip. I've just ordered the 2-CD Essential Kinks, in the hope that "Waterloo Sunset" on that collection will be a well-mastered stereo version.
     
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  15. Adam9

    Adam9 Senior Member

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    Yes.
     
  16. Sounds great to me. Celluloid Heroes also sounds awesone
     
  17. Shaker Steve

    Shaker Steve Beatles & Elvis Fan

    Thanks for your reply. I have three turntables, one that I can link up to my computer & two others. Rather than buy a CD with the stereo version on I checked the I Tunes store & they had it there. Also a stereo version of David Watts so I bought them both.
     
  18. MikeM.

    MikeM. Well-Known Member

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    This thread was so helpful for me. Thanks for all the posts. Found that ELP's Tarkus (the song) has a similar surround effect around 9:30 mark with keyboards attacking me from all sides, even behind me. From the iTunes download not sure about any other versions. Almost frightening!
     
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  19. Echoes Myron

    Echoes Myron Forum Resident

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    I listened to my 50th Stereo vinyl copy again today, and the background vocals do float around the speakers but not too far out to the sides or around the listening position. I will have to get a copy of Kinks Kronicles and see how that goes.
     
  20. Joel1963

    Joel1963 Forum Resident

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    If you have a Samsung 9, listen with headphones to BTO's Let It Ride or A-ha's Take On Me in Dolby Atmos Movie setting. You'll think some parts of the songs are floating around your chest.
     
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  21. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    I've been asked again what VERSION of "Waterloo Sunset" sounds the best in the stereo mix.

    That's easy: It is "SOMETHING ELSE By The Kinks, ORIGINAL PRT Records CD issue which is PRT 8.26674, Made In Western Germany (sticker).

    Should say "Made in W. Germany" and TELDEC P 1967 & P1997 on label. With a "Digitally mastered AAD" on the left

    For all I know most of the songs on this have the same (intentional or unintentional) effect. Try DEATH OF A CLOWN, etc. to find out.

    This is the BEST SOUNDING VERSION of this album out there. Don't trust the remasterings that bump up the treble to ear-bleed level.

    This is the "flat transfer" CD that is the best.

    Find a copy, probably out there for nothing..

    The best mono version is still the UGLY PINK.
     
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  22. aphexj

    aphexj Sound mind & body

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    Bought this CD some time ago Steve thanks to your recommendation. Now when a composer comes into our space to listen to the PA, I play this track for them :)
     
  23. wes

    wes Forum Resident

    Oh god, the top end is so aweful sounding on that album..
    I don’t understand why it would want to be emphasized..
    I’ve got the ugly pink mono LP and a cheap reprise cd version..
    I’ll have to search for the west German disc..
     
  24. All Down The Line

    All Down The Line Forum Resident

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    Ugly?
     
  25. Steve Hoffman

    Steve Hoffman Mastering Engineer Your Host Thread Starter

    Ugly pink cover. Most accurate sound (to the original tapes).
     
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