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Poll: Who did New Wave better in the 80s: USA or UK?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Cryptical17, May 3, 2021.

  1. Cryptical17

    Cryptical17 Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    New York
    New Wave in the 80s (usually) meant synthesizers, big hair, colorful outfits, synthesized guitars, androgynous images. Both the USA and the UK led the way in the decade, and provided the movement’s most well known acts. I can think of the Cars (USA) Duran Duran (UK) as mere examples, but that’s obviously just the top of the iceberg.

    Who did New Wave better in the 80s? The Americans or British? And why?

    Who do you think were the most prominent acts of each country? The ones that really put New Wave on the map in the decade of excess and bad fashion?
     
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  2. JoeF.

    JoeF. Forum Resident

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    New Jersey, USA
    UK, hands down.
     
  3. Etienne Hanratty

    Etienne Hanratty Forum Resident

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    uk
    I’d struggle to give examples, but I’d say what was referred to as New Wave in the UK-an evolution of punk but without the eccentricity of post-punk-was different to the style of music given the same name in the US-slightly harder edged pop with prominent synths. Either way, I’d vote UK.
     
  4. DK Pete

    DK Pete Forum Resident

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    Agreed; the early to mid-80's in America (far as Rock was concerned) were dominated by metal and "big-hair" bands. New Wave was practically all but non-existent. Even artists like Blondie, The Cars and and Talking Heads who were at the forefront of New Wave in the late 70's had become very mainstream.
     
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  5. JoeF.

    JoeF. Forum Resident

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    New Jersey, USA
    I'm struggling to come up with acts from both sides of the ocean that could be compared to each other, but songs like "I Ran" and "Love Plus One" and others of the sort--plus ska , as well as post-punk like The Jam and The Smiths---there was NOTHING in the States at that time to compare to that.
     
  6. Cryptical17

    Cryptical17 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    New York
    I seem to find that USA- made New Wave pales in comparison to UK. I was watching Starship (with Grace Slick) videos from the 80s and although they embrace new wave trends it’s kind of laughable
     
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  7. musicnonstop

    musicnonstop Kling Klang Kwatsch Kommentator

    Location:
    Düsseldorf
    I'm a bit confused by the OP's definition of 'New Wave', as it suits 'New Romantic' better.

    Anne Clark, Gary Numan, Sisters Of Mercy and The Cure come to mind immediately as 'New Wave'. British indeed.
     
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  8. RageRomano

    RageRomano Forum Resident

    Location:
    NJ
    Only new wave bands I've ever really liked are Oingo Boingo and Devo, so USA gets my vote!

    *As of right now looks like I'm the only one :D
     
  9. mike_mike

    mike_mike neurodiverse

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  10. KUJayhawk

    KUJayhawk Forum Resident

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    UK no contest.
     
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  11. Both were great. Many don’t realize the full extant of the US scene: power pop, rockabilly, electronics, avant/post punk, etc.,The US was a very diffused scene, hence overlooked, unlike the UK scene.


    We don’t have an agreed upon definition of new wave, so UK punk bands will probably be considered by many in the US, but not UK

    The Go?

    The Jam?

    Pylon?

    Elvis Costello?

    The Plimsouls?

    Altered Images?

    Blasters?

    Teardrop Explodes?

    Los Lobos?

    Soft Boys?

    Klaus Nomi?

    The Photos?
     
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  12. UK easily, but The USA had a few greats, like The B52s.
     
  13. Gnome de Plume

    Gnome de Plume Forum Resident

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    Yountville, CA
    Yes, Starship was the antithesis of "New Wave." The British mostly owned the concept.
     
  14. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    So who qualifies here....

    US

    B52's
    Talking Heads
    Devo
    The Cars
    Animation
    Blondie
    Go go's
    Romantics
    Sparks
    Motels
    Wall of voodoo
    Berlin
    The Call
    The Knack
    Oingo boingo
    Romeo void


    Hybrid

    The Pretenders


    UK

    ABC
    Japan
    Talk talk
    Visage
    Simple minds
    Eurythmics
    Blue Nile
    China crisis
    Cure
    Police
    Madness
    Duran duran
    Human league
    Depeche mode
    Echo and the Bunneymen
    Siouxsie and the banshees
    Killing joke
    (UK) Squeeze
    Adam and the Ants
    Frankie goes to Hollywood
    Ultravox
    OMD
    Kim Wilde
    Howard jones
    Heaven 17
    Soft cell
    Haircut 100
    Cabaret voltaire
    The fixx
    Ian Dury and the Blockheads


    Quite different styles between them.


    I don't know if they are all new wave, or even if I got the countries right.... just trying to figure it out...

    Frankly some really strong bands on both lists... England may win by sheer weight of numbers....

    I don't know
     
  15. Sneaky Pete

    Sneaky Pete Senior Member

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    NYC USA
    UK to my ears.
     
  16. WolfSpear

    WolfSpear Music Enthusiast

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    Florida
    It was the Second British Invasion for a reason. It’s really no contest especially when you compare and contrast Mark’s list. Tons of one hit wonders throughout the 80’s too.
     
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  17. caribiner23

    caribiner23 Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Chicago
    Definitely the UK.
     

  18. Good lists, add to the US:

    Pearl Harbour
    Holly and the Italians
    Dirty Looks
    The Shirts
    TheA’s
    db's
    Game theory
    Chrome
    Rachel Sweet
    Skafish
    Mofungo
    Wazmo Nariz
    Pere Ubu
    Panther Burns
    Stray Cats
    Elvis brothers
    the Rave Ups
    Hypstryz
    Fleshtones
    Let’s Active
    Bongos
    Feelies
    Individuals
    Chesterfield kings
    Blue Angel
    Red Rockers
    MX 80 Sound
    Code Blue
    Curtiss A
    Charlie Pickett
    Blasters
    Los Lobos
    Plimsouls
    Brains
    Nerves
    Lene Lovich
    Suburbs
    Suburban Lawns
    Suicide Commandos
     
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  19. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    I only know
    Stray Cats
    Los Lobos
    Lene Lovich
    lol :)
     
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  20. YarRevenge

    YarRevenge Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Spain
    Frankie Say UK
     
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  21. dheath

    dheath Forum Resident

    Location:
    Atlanta, GA
    I will give it to the US on the strength of Romeo Void alone.
     
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  22. When did new wave begin/end? '77, 78 -82, 83, 84?
     
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  23. 2141

    2141 Forum Resident

    I was going to go with the UK but after seeing your list I suddenly realize the first 6 or so from the US (plus the Pretenders) is actually closer to my listening preferences than the UK side (not to say there's not a lot of great bands on that list!) Anyway, I changed my mind, going with the US on this. :agree:
     
  24. rockerreds

    rockerreds Forum Resident

  25. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Yea
    At first with the posts, I thought "yea, the US didn't have many new wave bands"...
    So I had to look it up and see who is supposedly new wave and such... and there are some really strong bands in the US batch (I only listed bands I know)

    The striking thing to me is how different the styling is between the countries ... which leads to making perfect sense as to why someone would like one country over another.
    In Oz I got a lot of exposure to both sides, and after I finally accepted the synthesizer as a valid instrument (lol) I grew to love too much from both sides to really choose.
     
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