Yes, it is pretty short, but the contributors are very dedicated so I use it based on knowing that these members really know what they're doing. Partially my fault as well not checking. Happy holidays!
I you use the search box, you can put a checkmark at "Search This Thread Only" to restrict your search. A very useful option. Most of the time the most recent post containing your search terms will be on top in the results page. That's the easiest way to find the post with the latest version of our list.
The list might be short but it's relatively complete, concerning western releases. What is missing? Mainly, Japanese domestic releases, because no one besides me is adding them. There should be hundreds more titles. Also, small label/private issues that were made in small quantities. Just guessing there. Also, classical releases, because there were so many of them and also not much people are checking and reporting them here.
I just listened to it and I am not too sure if it has Pre-emphasis. I have a CDEPC 83468 that contains the remixes of Rock With You and Get On The Floor, does anyone know if that exact version has pre-emphasis?
If it doesn’t have 35.8P… in the matrix, it doesn’t have pre-emphasis. It’s probably the made in Austria disc with the same catalogue number as the made in Japan disc, Michael Jackson - Thriller .
can I find the matrix close to the hole of the CD? It says 'Mastered by DADC Austria' https://i.imgur.com/gx4sAnO.jpg So, no pre-emphasis? It sounds very good though, very rich and full. Is it known to be a lesser copy?
I was chatting with Y9771 on Discord who told me about pre-emphasis on CDs and linked me here. I had no idea this was present on CDs and immediately checked my older releases to see if they had it. My copy of Heaven 17's The Luxury Gap has pre-emphasis and is a different pressing from what's already been posted here. My copy is CDV2253 on Virgin, barcode 5012981225322, and has copyright 1983 listed. The CD was made in the UK and has the matrix "CDV2253 100721 02 %". Please let me know how this should be officially added to the list or anything that I need to do to verify or report the pre-emphasis, and I'll respond with anything necessary ASAP.
That's a later mastering, very common, no pre-emphasis, good sound but doesn't contain all the original mixes.
It’s a fine copy, like @Andreas said. More importantly, do you think it sounds fine? No pre-emphasis on this on, so no postprocessing needed after ripping. The text in the inner ring of the disc includes the matrix number. For this disc it is “CDEPC-83468 31”. The “Mastered by DADC Austria” is a nice addition, but not many pressing plants include such a message. Additionally, if you look at the text at 3 o’clock on the disc face, you will see it says “Made in Austria” on the bottom line.
From a cursory search of the Discogs forum, it doesn't look like there's ever been a proposal to add a field to indicate the presence of PE on a compact disc. (Anyone see otherwise?) It seems like a good idea to me. Does anyone know if that feature has been explicitly ruled out in the past? If not, I'll consider bringing it up there. (I haven't been an active Discogs user for very long, so I am still getting to know the customs and rules there; I don't want to bring it up if that's actually a bad idea. ) In other news, I am working on an updated list for here. (I think the last update was in March; let me know if I missed one.)
That's the easiest path, and I suspect it's already been noted for various titles. It would be great if the data were more structured, so one could, say, filter all the discs with PE in one's collection.
At least as of iTunes v12.9 on OSX, iTunes does properly de-emphasize CDs including those marked only in subcode. I ripped The Jacksons - Triumph today using both dBPowerAmp CD Ripper and iTunes. The iTunes files compared with the dBPowerAmp files in WaveLab show a marked decrease in treble and very different peak and average loudness levels indicative of de-emphasis. I know this is a reply to an older post but this is good info to share regardless. Chris
I have the list data updated and in spreadsheet form; I just need to think about the best way to present it here. (I'd prefer something other than the plain text that we've used here, because it's unwieldy to maintain.) It might be sensible to host it somewhere (a Google sheet or similar), and then perhaps a few of us here could have permission to edit and maintain it. Meanwhile, here is a raw dump of the TSV (tab-separated values) data, which you can cut-and-paste into a spreadsheet of your own for viewing. Rather than trying to coerce the various entries into a complicated format, I've settled on <artist> <title> <notes>. If you see any corrections (very possible!), DM them to me or just note them here. Code: Artist Title Notes A. Nicolet, H.Holliger, C. Jaccottet, et al. J.S. Bach / C.P.E. Bach: Trio Sonatas (COCO-70789) [1984; 2005 reissue] Accept Hungry Years Metronome 831077-2 - made in W. Germany by Polygram Akiko Yano Gohan Ga Dekitayo Japan Record 35JC-1 (SUBQ) Akina Nakamori Fantasy (1983) 35XL-1, matrix 35XL-1 11A2, CSR (SUBQ) Al Di Meola Tour De Force - Live {CBS/Sony 35DP-41 Gold-Face}, matrix: 35DP-41-3 1A1 “MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY RECORDS INC.” (SUBQ) Al DiMeola Electric Rendezvous 35DP 30 Alice Best 10 1983, cat/no CA35-1008, Toshiba, matrix CA35-1008-4 1A1 (SUBQ) Amii Ozaki Miracle PCCA-00236, this is reissue from 1991, so first issue D35A-0029 from 1983 probably has PE too (TOC) Amii Ozaki Miracle D140P6232-1, released 1988, originally a part of box-set with 5 CDs (SUBQ) Andreas Vollenweider ...Behind the Gardens — Behind the Wall — Under the Tree... CBS/Sony Japan, 1981, Cat # MK 37793, Matrix: DIDP 020054 6 (TOC) Andrei Gavrilov Scriabin 24 Preludes, Sonata No. 4, Etude Op. 42/5 EMI CDC 7 47346 2, Made in Switzerland Anthony Braxton Quartet (London) 1985 - 2CD, Leo CD LR 200/201 Anthony Braxton Six Compositions (Quartet) 1984 - Black Saint Apsaras Apsaras (1984, MK 39559) matrix DIDC 20138 11A1, stamped in hub: Made in USA - Digital Audio Disc Corp. Flagged in TOC. Art Garfunkel Scissors Cut CBS/Sony 38DP-22 Gold-Face, matrix: 38DP-22-14 1A1 “MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY RECORDS INC.”, crude font on opposite sides of matrix band (SUBQ) Art Pepper Darn That Dream Realtime RT 3009 306134 Manufactured by Sanyo Japan Asia S/T 35DP 25 Bachman, Turner Overdrive Not Fragile and Four Wheel Drive Japan 2fer, 33PD 424 Barbirolli/Czech PO Franck Symphony in D Minor Supraphon 11 0613-2 011 Barbra Streisand Barbra Streisand's Greatest Hits Volume 2 35DP 161 & CDCBS 86079, matrix DIDP 10025 41A2 Barbra Streisand Guilty 35DP 7 Barbra Streisand Guilty CDCBS 86122 Japan For EU Barbra Streisand The Way We Were CK 32801/DIDP-20056 Barenboim Schubert Symphonies 2 & 8 CBS Masterworks MK 39676 DIDC 20191 Beatles Abbey Road EMI CP35-3016 (Black Triangle) (SUBQ) Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra/Heinz Rögner Schubert Symphony No. 9 38C37-7035, A-25, 7035 matrix Bernard Herrmann North by Northwest: Original Motion Picture Score Varese Sarabande VCD 47205 - Made in Japan pressing only Big Audio Dynamite This Is Big Audio Dynamite CDCBS 26714 Big Audio Dynamite This Is Big Audio Dynamite Columbia CK 40220 - Early US DADC pressing - DIDP 20460 11A2 Billy Joel -- note some releases with the same matrix can differ as far as whether PE is present or not Billy Joel 52nd St. 35DP 1 - Japan for Japan / Japan for US Billy Joel Glass Houses 35DP 18 (Japan for Japan / Japan for US) Billy Joel Piano Man CDCBS 80719 Japan for Europe with 35DP 109 in the matrix Billy Joel Piano Man CK 32544 Columbia USA "The Nice Price" Billy Joel Piano Man CK 32544 Columbia, Made In Austria Billy Joel Songs In The Attic 35DP 19 Billy Joel The Nylon Curtain 35DP 34 (crude font matrix) Billy Joel The Stranger 35DP 2 (crude font matrix) Billy Joel Turnstiles 35DP 111 (Japan for Japan), black face with CSR x3 hub (SUBQ) BIX Doozgle ZNCD033, 1993 (TOC) Black Sabbath -- CLACD and NELCDs have it The Blue Nile Hats (1989 US; Linn/A&M CD 5284) [PROMOTIONAL stamp on label], (1989 European; Linn/Virgin LXHCD2) Bob Dylan Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits CBS - CK 9463 / DIDP 50099 - Matrix: 35DP-99 41A1 Bob Dylan Real Live Columbia CK 39944 - Made in Japan - matrix 32DP-196 11 +++++ CSRx3 Bob James and Earl Klugh One on One CBS/Sony 35DP-10 and CBS/Tappan Zee CK 36241 made in Japan with 35DP-10 matrix Boston Don't Look Back Epic/Sony 35.8P-7 - Matrix: 35 8P-7-6 1A1 “Gold-Face” pressing / (not Epic EK 35050) Boz Scaggs Hits! 35DP 11 Boz Scaggs Middle Man 35DP 3 Boz Scaggs Silk Degrees 35DP 20 Boz Scaggs Silk Degrees 35DP Japan For Europe (SUBQ) Bruce Cockburn Stealing Fire A&M/Gold Mountain CD 80012 - Made in Japan Bruce Springsteen Born to Run Columbia CK 33795 / 35DP 21 Bruce Springsteen Darkness on the Edge of Town CBS/Sony 32DP 351 Bruce Springsteen Darkness On The Edge Of Town Japan CBS For Europe DIDP matrix) Bruce Springsteen Darkness on the Edge of Town Japan for USA - Columbia CK35318, DIDP 20027, matrix DIDP-20027 21A3 +++++, CSR x3 hub Bruno Walter w/ Columbia Symphony Orchestra Symphonies 35, 39 MK 42026 / DIDC 50073 Bruno Walter w/ Columbia Symphony Orchestra Symphonies 40, 41 MK 42028 / DIDC 50075 Bruno Walter Wagner Symphony No. 8, Parsifal: Prelude & Good Friday Spell/Prelude & Karfeitagszauber US DADC Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra Brahms: Symphony No.2 Columbia MK 42021 / 35DC 86 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra Brahms: Symphony No.3 Columbia MK 42022 / 35DC 87 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra Bruckner: Symphony No.4 CBS/Sony 35DC 117 Bruno Walter/Columbia Symphony Orchestra Bruckner: Symphony No.9 CBS/Sony 35DC 114 Bruno Walter/New York Philharmonic Orchestra Mahler: Symphony No.2 2CD, CBS/Sony 56DC131~132 Carpenters Voice Of The Heart A&M Records 38XB-4, matrix: 38XB-4 11A3 “MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY RECORDS INC.”, partial black face (SUBQ) Cecile Licad/Claudio Abbado/Chicago Symphony Orchestra Rachmaninoff: Piano Concerto No. 2; Rhapsody MK 38672; DIDC 20014; matrix: DIDC 20014 31A5 Charles Mackerras/Prague Chamber Orchestra Mozart: Eine Kleine Nachtmusik 'Posthorn' Serenade DADC; pre-emphasis. DIDX 1404 21A1 neat font; DADC center hub; pre-emphasis flags in TOC Chi Pacific Rim 1988 CDJ 677 (matrix MADE BY DISCOVERY SYSTEMS - AN AMERICAN COMPANY 3LX0300a) (TOC) Chiemi Hori Best/ ~Umareta toki kara~ 1985, Canyon D50A0059 Both CSRx3 matrixes D50A-0059-1 11 +++++ and D50A-0059-2 11 +++++ (TOC) Chiemi Hori Lonely Universe 1985 Canyon Records, D32A0091, matrix D32A-0091 11A2 +++++, 3x CSR COMPACT DISC stamped in matrix (SUBQ) China Crisis Working With Fire And Steel CDV2286 (TOC) Clannad Legend RCA PD70188 - Made in W. Germany Cliff Sarde Honest & True 1989, ProJazz CDJ 685, matrix MADE BY DISCTRONICS (H) W. O. 11761-1 CDJ685 flagged in TOC Coil Horse Rotorvator ROTA CD1 Count Basie Basie in Europe Japan for Japan, LRC C38-7481, Denon press, PE in Subcode not TOC. The Cramps A Date With Elvis Czech Philharmonic Orchestra/Sir Charles Mackerras Janáček Glagolitic Mass 33C37-7448, C37-7448, 1A8 5Z matrix (SUBQ) Dan Fogelberg Phoenix Full Moon/Epic EK 35634 - Made in Japan - Manufactured by CBS/Sony Records, Inc. in clear hub - matrix DIDP 20037 21A2 Dan Fogelberg Phoenix Full Moon/Epic EK 35634 / DIDP 020037 - Manufactured In U.S.A. / Matrix DIDP 20037 12 Dan Fogelberg Souvenirs Full Moon/Epic EK 33137 - Made in Japan - matrix DIDP-20045 21A1 +++++ Dave Grusin Discovered Again cat. CD 5, Sheffield Lab, Matrix: CD 5 M5E21 (SUBQ) Deep Purple Machine Head EMI UK CDP 7 46242 2 Depeche Mode Construction Time Again W.German Mute INT. 846.807, Dark Stripe Silver Hub-Matrix INT 846807 2893 285 02 (SUBQ) Depeche Mode A Broken Frame Vogue MPO France #03 Barcode-0 743211 250221. PE may be limited to only French manufactures as I haven't run across any others that do. (TOC) Dire Straits Alchemy (both parts) Made in W.Germany / red swirl - matrix 818 245-2 05 and 818 244-2 06+ (TOC) Dire Straits Alchemy 818 244-2 and 818 245-2 Dire Straits Alchemy Part One; 25102-2 (from 2-disc set 9 25085-2);Part Two (the second disc) from the same set does not have pre-emphasis. Dire Straits Alchemy Silver Red Target West German #02 #01 818-244-2 Both Discs (SUBQ) Earth, Wind & Fire Powerlight CBS CDCBS 25120, Made in Japan for Europe, 35DP-44 in matrix Earth, Wind & Fire Powerlight CBS/Sony 35DP 44 Earth, Wind & Fire Raise! 35DP 15 Earth, Wind & Fire Raise! CBS CDCBS 85272, Made in Japan for Europe, 35DP-15 in matrix Eikichi Yazawa Yazawa first released 1981 on LP, this is first CD issue - Warner-Pioneer 32XL-97, from 1985, matrix 32XL-97 11A6 +++++) (SUBQ) Electric Light Orchestra Discovery 35DP 24 / Austria, epic 450083 2/ JET-500 11 / Jet ZK 35769 Japan Electric Light Orchestra Discovery Austria "Two Originals" Fatboy box - JET200 in the matrix TOC Electric Light Orchestra Discovery Japan For US 35DP ZK35769 (SUBQ) Electric Light Orchestra Discovery CSCS 6006, same peaks as 35DP (SUBQ) Electric Light Orchestra Secret Messages 35DP 72 / ZK38490 Electric Light Orchestra Secret Messages DADC Austria Blue Stripe Epic 462487 2 JET-527 Matrix (TOC). For Secret Messages, all Pre-Remaster pressings carry it except fot the Japan CSCS A Flock Of Seagulls A Flock Of Seagulls Jive/RCA US 1007-2-J; Jive/Arista JRCD 8011 - Made in Japan Frida Shine POLCD 390 Gazebo Gazebo 35DP 135 Genesis Genesis Virgin/Charisma, GEN CD1, 814 287-2 01 matrix (SUBQ) Genesis Genesis WG Target and Vertigo 800 series CD's Genesis Land of Confusion Single - Virgin SNEG 3 12 Geoffrey Simon Holst: The Planets London Symphony LaserLight Tracks 1-7 (TOC) George Duke Guardian of the Light 1983, catalog 35 8P 20, Epic/Sony, Matrix: 35 8P 20 11A1 (SUBQ) George Yanagi Vacancy rel. 1983, cat/no 35XL-8, matrix: 35XL-8 11A6 +++++ (SUBQ) George Yanagi & Rainy Wood Woman And I... (Old Fashioned Love Songs) cat/no 35XL-34, matrix 35XL-34 11A2, CSR Gigi D'Agostino L'Amour Toujours II ZYX 20714-2 Go-Go's Talk Show 35DP 146 Go-Go's Talk Show CSCS 6047 Graciela Susana Adoro/La Reine De Saba cat/no CA35-1004, matrix is CA35-1004-11 1A1 Harry James The King James Version Sheffield Labs CD 3, disc made in Japan by JVC. Harry Nilsson Harry Nilsson's Greatest Hits RCA PD 89081 - Made in Japan for Europe Herb Alpert Rise A&M Records 38XB-6, 1st Japanese pressing with partial black design CSR. (SUBQ) Howard Jones Human's Lib Elektra 9 60346-2/WEA 2 40335-2 - Japan for US (TOC) Howard Jones Human's Lib W.German Target #01 (SUBQ) Huey Lewis and the News Huey Lewis and the News Chrysalis CCD 1292 - Made in Japan Huguette Dreyfus Bach: Works For Harpsicord 38C37-7233 [1984] Huguette Dreyfus Scarlatti: 14 Sonatas Denon 38C37-7095, Japan [1984] The Human League Dare Virgin CDV 2192 - UK I Solisti Italiani Vivaldi: 6 Concerti, Op. 12 (COCO-70897) [1994; 2007 reissue] - PE flag in disc TOC / track subcode I Solisti Italiani Vivaldi: 12 Concerti, Op. 7 (COCO-70777/8) [1992; 2005 reissue] - PE flag in disc TOC / track subcode I Solisti Italiani Vivaldi: 12 Concerti, Op. 9 'La Cetra' (COCO-70834/5) [1993; 2006 reissue] - PE flag in disc TOC / track subcode Ivan Moravec Chopin Preludes Op. 28, Ballade in F Minor Supraphon 11 0630-2 011 Ivan Moravec Schumann Concerto, Franck Symphonic Variations Supraphon 11 0650-2 011 The Jacksons Destiny EK35552 The Jacksons Triumph CDEPC 86112 (CSR Japan-for-Europe) / EK36424 ("Now Made In The USA") The Jacksons Triumph CDEPC 86112 (CSR Japan-for-Europe) / EK36424 ("Now Made In The USA") 32.8P-181 (TOC) Japan Tin Drum 32VD-1016 & VJCP-23056 (1991 Japanese reissue) James Newton Howard James Newton Howard & Friends Sheffield Lab, 1984, Cat. CD-23, Matrix: CD23 W.O. # 9569-1 (SUBQ) Jean-Michel Jarre Zoolook Polydor 823 763-2 Jeff Beck There And Back 35·8P-5 Jethro Tull Aqualung CCD 1044; Chrysalis grey face; West Germany, 1984; CCD 1044 2891438 01 AO (SUBQ) Jethro Tull Minstrel in the Gallery CDP 32 1082-2 Jethro Tull The Broadsword and the Beast CCD 1380 Jethro Tull This Was CDP 32 1041 2 / Chrysalis CCD-1041 - Matrix "CCD-1041 MASTERED BY NIMBUS" Jethro Tull Under Wraps Chrysalis 610 203 made in West-Germany (1984) Joan Baez Live Europe 83: Children of the Eighties Ariola 610 186_880 - Made in Japan John McLaughlin Devotion CD made in Switzerland by I.C.M. John McLaughlin, Al Di Meola, Paco De Lucia Friday Night In San Francisco 35DP-9 / matrix: 35DP-9-2 1A2 “Gold-Face” pressing John Williams Albéniz: Echoes of Spain MK 36679; 38DC-30; CSR Japan for US; MK 36679; DIDC 50030; matrix: 38DC-30 111C1 Journey Escape 35DP 6 / CBS CK37408, matrix DIDP 050006 Journey Frontiers (JP edition 35DP 45) matrix: 35DP-45 71A5 +++++, 3x CSR COMPACT DISC stamped in hub) (SUBQ) Journey Frontiers CBS CK38504 DIDP50045 Journey Frontiers Japan Sony (SRCS 6270), 1993 "Nice Price" Line Journey Frontiers US DADC Stamp (TOC) Julio Iglesias America CBS CDCBS 82846 - Made in Japan Kaoru Sudo Tear-Drops Calendar 1985, CBS/Sony, 32DH 193, matrix 32DH-193 11A2 +++++, 3x CSR COMPACT DISC stamped in hub (SUBQ) Karla Bonoff Wild Heart Of The Young (1982) CBS/Sony 35DP-26 1st Japanese Gold-Face pressing (SUBQ) Kazumi Watanabe Lonesome Cat 1978 - CD reissue from November 1982 - 38C38-7017.C-38-7017 2A2-52 3 (SUBQ) Kenny Loggins High Adventure CBS CK 38127 - Made in Japan - Matrix 35DP-40 21B3 MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY RECORDS Kikuchi Momoko Ocean Side VAP 80003-35, 1984, matrix VAP-80003 1A4-53, so pressed in 1985 (SUBQ) Kim Carnes Mistaken Identity CP35-3018 & CP21-6067 Kitaro Best Selection Canyon D33R0013 - Made in Japan Kitaro In Person Canyon P-3004 Kitaro Ki Canyon P-3006 Kitaro Oasis Canyon P-3002 Kitaro Oasis Gramavision 18-7010-2 – West Germany PDO – Red Faced cd (TOC) Kitaro Silk Road Canyon P-3001 Kitaro Silk Road II Canyon P-3003 Kitaro Silver Cloud Geffen 24086-2 - Mfg. by the Victor Company of Japan Kitaro Tunhuang Canyon P-3005 Klaus Schulze Irrlicht AVI CD Kubelik Bruckner Symphony 4 CBS/Sony FDCA-325 81 +++++ CSR on inner hub) Kubelik Mozart - Symphonies 38 and 39 38DC 4 Kumiko Yamashita Ame no hi wa uchi ni ite Columbia 33C31-7513 (1985 June) and Columbia CA-3580 (1989 July) matrix C31-7513 2B3 87 (SUBQ) Leo Kottke A Shout Towards Noon Private/RCA 2007-2-P (32XB-86 2A3 TO in matrix) - Made in Japan Leonard Bernstein West Side Story CDCBS 70006 (matrix 35DP-59 41A7 +++++) (SUBQ) Lincoln Mayorga & Amanda McBroom Growing Up in Hollywood Town Sheffield Labs CD-13 - Made in Japan Lionel Richie Can't Slow Down Motown MCD 06059MD Japan for U.S. CD Lionel Richie Can't Slow Down Motown MCD06059MD - matrix MCD06059MD S8A18D - Made in U.S.A. on CD (TOC) Lionel Richie Can't Slow Down US Motown Lionel Richie Lionel Richie (S/T) Motown MCD06007MD - Made in Germany (SUBQ) Lionel Richie Lionel Richie Mowtown MCD06007MD - Made in Japan London Mayorga and Distinguished Colleagues The Missing Linc, Volume II Sheffield Labs CD-15 - Made in Japan Loverboy Keep It Up 35.8P -27 (SUBQ) Maazel Gaite Parisienne 35DC 52 Maazel Wagner - Overtures mk 38699 Maazel, Cleveland Orchestra Tchaikosvky No. 5 CBS - 38DC-7 and Europan/American versions with 38DC-7 in hub ring area Mannheim Steamroller Fresh Aire American Gramophone AGCD-355 - Made in Japan Mannheim Steamroller Fresh Aire II American Gramaphone AGCD-359 - Made in Japan Mannheim Steamroller Fresh Aire III American Gramaphone AGCD-365 - Made in Japan Marillion Real To Reel early WG CD Mark Knopfler Cal Vertigo 822 769-2 Marsalis Marsalis CK 37574 & CDCBS 85404 J for E 35P-33 151A3 +++++ (first CSR Japan) Marsalis Think of One 35DP-75 & Japan for US - CBS CK 38641 Masaki Ueda After Midnight 1990 CBS/Sony CSCL 1229 ([)first issued on CD in 1983 - cat/no 35DH-42) flagged in TOC Masaki Ueda Songs 35DH 67, CBS/Sony, 1983, matrix 35DH-67 21A4 +++++, CSR stamped in hub Matthew Wilder I Don't Speak The Language Japan for USA (has 35DP-136 matrix code) ZK 39112 Men At Work Business As Usual 35·8P-15 Men At Work Cargo CK 38660 (U.S), 35 8P-16 & CBS 461023 2 Austria (all have PE) Mercyful Fate Melissa RRD9898 (TOC) Merle Haggard & Willie Nelson Pancho & Lefty Epic EK 37958 - DIDP 20085 Michael Jackson Off the Wall Epic/Sony Records ESCA 5407 & 32·8P-233 made in Japan (TOC) Michael Jackson Thriller 1982 Epic/CBS CDEPC 85930 (DI8P-11); matrix: 35 8P-11 111A2 +++++ Michael Tilson Thomas; Sarah Vaughan; Los Angeles Philharmonic Gershwin Live! MK 37277; 35DP-57; CSR Japan for US -- 35DP-57 11A5 (SUBQ) Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells 32VD-1010, Japanese “Black Triangle” Matrix:32VD-1010 11+++++ (Sony) Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells US BMG Club Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells WG CDV 2001 and Japan VJD-23001 Miles Davis Agharta 50DP 237~8 Miles Davis Decoy 35DP 170 does not have PE Miles Davis E.S.P. CBS/Sony 35DP 69 Miles Davis Four and More 35DP 66 Miles Davis In a Silent Way CBS/Sony 35DP 70 does not have PE Miles Davis Kind of Blue Columbia CK 08163 / 35DP 62 does not have PE Miles Davis Miles in Berlin CBS/Sony 35DP 68 Miles Davis Miles in Tokyo CBS/Sony 35DP 67 Miles Davis My Funny Valentine CBS/Sony 35DP 65 Miles Davis Pangaea 50DP 239~40 Miles Davis Porgy and Bess CBS/Sony 35DP 61 Miles Davis Sketches of Spain Columbia CK 08271 / 35DP 63 Miles Davis Someday My Prince Will Come 35DP 64 Miles Davis Star People 35DP 55 Miles Davis The Man With The Horn 35DP 16 Momoe Yamaguchi 33 Singles (1983) 60DH51~2 (CSR); CD1 matrix: 60DH-51 11A9 +++++ (SUBQ); CD2 matrix: 60DH-52 21 +++++ (TOC) The Moody Blues The Moody Blues Collection Castle Communications CCSCD 105 - Made in England The Move The Collection Castle Communications CCSCD 135 (SUBQ) Murray Perahia Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 26, K.537, 'Coronation' CBS digital MK 39224 DIDC 20031 Murray Perahia Mozart - Piano Concertos 15 & 16 CBS digital made in USA on inner ring MK 37824 DIDC 20025 Murray Perahia Mozart - Piano Concertos 17 & 18 CBS made in Japan by CSR MK 36686 DIDC 50051 The Mystic Moods/Renée Hamaty Stormy Memories Bainbridge BCD-6284 Naoko Kawai Summer Delicacy Denon 35C31-7187, 1984, matrix C-31-7187 2A1-47 (SUBQ) Naoko Kawai Collection cat/no: 33C31-7083, released 1983.12.21, matrix: 7083 A-1Z (SUBQ) Naoko Kawai Stardust Garden rel. 1985.03.05, cat/no. 33C31-7410, matrix: C-31-7410 2A1-55, Denon (SUBQ) Naoya Matsuoka A Farewell To The Seashore 1983, cat/no WPC6-8122, matrix WPC6-8122 1 + ++ ++++++++ (TOC) Neil Diamond 12 Greatest Hits, Volume II CK 38068 Neil Young and the Shocking Pinks Everybody's Rockin' Geffen 4013-2 - W. Germany target (SUBQ) Nena 99 Luftballoons Epic EK39294 - Manufactured in Japan. Matrix 35 8P-42 11A1 Nena 99 Luftballoons Epic EK39294 DI8P 050042 Japan For US New Order Low Life Australia Disctronics (TOC) New Order Low Life FACD 100 - Nimbus UK / Japan for UK (SUBQ) Nick Lowe Pinker And Prouder Than Previous 1988 Demon Records, UK; FIEND CD 99 Norma Procter (contralto)/LSO/Jascha Horenstein Mahler: Symphony 3 2CD, Unicorn-Kanchana UKCD 2006/7 Oceans Ridin' The Tide 1989 CDJ 697 (matrix MADE BY DISCTRONICS (H) W.O. 12888-1 CDJ697 (TOC) Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark Architecture & Morality CDID12 (as well as part of the UK Virgin box of three OMD titles) Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark Architecture & Morality CDID12 WG Silver #01, Tag located in the SUB-Q channel Parachute Colours D35R0002, Agharta (Canyon Records), 1982.11, matrix D35R-0002 11A2 +++++ Paul McCartney Give my Regards to Broad Street CDP 7 46018 2 / Columbia CK39613 (Made in Japan, 18 tracks) Paul McCartney Give My Regards to Broad Street Parlophone CDP 7 46043 2 - Made in UK - 15 tracks. Paul McCartney Pipes of Peace CDP 7 46018 2 (Made in Japan) Paul McCartney Pipes of Peace Parlophone CDP 7 46018 2 B / Sonopress C-7659 (Made In W. Germany) Paul McCartney Tug of War CP35-3001 Japanese black triangle (not black face or Japan->US) Paul McCartney Tug of War TOCP-7952, Made in Japan. (another number on the disc: PCTC-259-AB (TOC) Pet Shop Boys Please US CDP-546271 and CDP 7 46271 2 / CP32-5131 (All Pre-Remaster editions carry it except for the later Japan TOCP) Phil Collins Face Value 1984, Virgin CDV 2185; matrix: CDV 2185 2891088 03; Printed in West Germany by Neef, Wittingen (SUBQ)| Philip Bailey Chinese Wall Columbia CK39542 USA/US DADC (TOC) Philip Glass Dancepieces CBS Masterworks MK 39539 - US DADC pressing Pink Floyd The Dark Side of the Moon CP35-3017 Pink Floyd The Dark Side of the Moon US Toshiba TO J (SUBQ) Pink Floyd The Final Cut 35DP 53 Pink Floyd The Wall 50DP 361~2 / CK2 and related masterings Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here 35DP 4 - 2 tracks Police Synchronicity 38XB-2 (10 track) The 11-track 38XB-2 does not have PE Quarterflash Quarterflash (1981) CBS/Sony 35DP-27, 1st Japanese (1982) Gold-Face pressing (SUBQ) Quarterflash Quarterflash Japanese target pressing Quincy Jones The Dude A&M Records 38XB-1, matrix: 38XB-1 11 “MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY RECORDS INC.”, partial black face (SUBQ) Rainhard Fendrich Weus'd A Herz Hast 1986 WG Polygram Silver #01 (TOC) Ray Charles The Legend Lives... Arcade ADEH/CD/780 - Made in W. Germany by Polygram Reimy Pansy 1985, Columbia, 33C31-7518, matrix C31-7518 1A4 55 (SUBQ) Reimy Reimy C31-7163 2A1 55 X, Cat/no 35C31-7163, label Denon (SUBQ) REO Speedwagon Hi Infidelity 35·8P-4 Richard Thompson Hand of Kindness Hannibal HNCD 1313 Ricky Skaggs Highways & Heartaches Epic EK 37996 - Made in Japan Robert Fripp/The League of Gentlemen God Save The King Editions EG EEGCD 9 Discovery Systems Roger Waters Pros And Cons Of Hitch Hiking 35DP 149 Dutch EMI/Harvest (CDP 7 46029 2) / US Columbia/CBS (CK 39290) The Romantics In Heat Nemperor ZK 38880 (35DP matrix) / also US DADC Rosanne Cash Seven Year Ache Columbia CK 36965 / Matrix: 1A CK36965 02 / Inner Ring: CMU P 49 TOC Including the US DADC Pressing S.Kiyotaka & Omega Tribe Aqua City 1983 VAP 80001-35, 1984 first CD edition (SUBQ) Sadao Watanabe Maisha 1985, 32XD-4, Warner-Pioneer, matrix 32XD-4 11A8 +++++, target (TOC) Saga Heads or Tales Bon Aire 258 477 / Polydor 815 410-2 Saga Heads or Tales Portrait RK 38999 - Japan - tracks 5-9 only Santana Abraxas 35DP 58 Santana Abraxas 35DP 58 neat font matrix 35DP-58 21A1 +++++ (TOC) Santana Beyond Appearances 2007 BMG reissue, Pre carried onto the later release Santana Beyond Appearances CK39527 Santana Havana Moon CBS/Sony 35DP 56 Santana Shango 35DP 23 Santana Shango from the 2009 Original Album Classics Set Seiko Matsuda Index (1982) CBS/Sony 35DH 14 matrix 35DH-14-5 1A1 (neat font, not crude), "MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY RECORDS INC." (SUBQ) Seiko Matsuda North Wind (35DH 69) 35DH-69 11A5 +++++ (SUBQ) Seiko Matsuda TOWN 1984 compilation, this is HK edition CJD 3009 (TOC) Seiko Matsuda Utopia CSCL 1271 c/n 38DH 39 Matrix DSA-522 8 + ++ ++++++++. (TOC) Sex Pistols Never Mind the Bollocks Japan Virgin 32VD-1011 ("black triangle") Silvio Rodríguez Al Final de Este Viaje Simon & Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water CBS/Sony 35DP-14, Matrix: 35DP-14 1 1B4 “Gold-Face” pressing Simon & Garfunkel Collection 32DP 287 Matrix: 32DP-287 71A11 +++++ has pre-emphasis Simon & Garfunkel The Simon And Garfunkel Collection 35DP 13 and CDCBS 24005 DADC Austria (TOC) Smetana Quartet W.A. Mozart: 2 String Quartets KV 458 "Hunt" & KV 421 (COCO-70792) [1982; 2005 reissue] The Smiths Hatful Of Hollow 32JC-129 (Japan CSR) The Smiths Meat Is Murder (1985) Tokuma Japan 32JC-108 1st Japanese pressing The Smiths The Smiths 35JC-102 (SUBQ) Spandau Ballet The Singles Collection (1985) – Chysalis CCD1498 – Made in Japan (Sanyo, silver face), Matrix: CCD1498 60208A (TOC) Stardust Revue Thank You 1985.04.25, 32XL-63; matrix 32XL-63 11A1, CSR stamped in hub (TOC) Streetheart Streetheart Canada pressing catalog #S21 53010 Sugiyama Kiyotaka & Omega Tribe Never Ending Summer 1984, Vap, 80006, matrix VAP-80006 2A2 92 (SUBQ) SUK Trio Dvorak Trio #4 Denon Japan 1983 (SUBQ) Survivor Eye of the Tiger Japan Canyon D32Y0039 Survivor Eye of the Tiger Scotti Brothers ZK 38062 - Made in USA - early with no check digit on barcode Survivor Vital Signs Japan Canyon D32Y0014 T Bone Burnett T Bone Burnett 1986 Dot/MCA Records MCAD-5809 Talich/Czech PO Dvorak Slavonic Dances Supraphon 11 0647-2 011 Tangerine Dream Exit CDV 2212 : (2 dot) Nimbus England Tangerine Dream Exit Virgin CDV 2212 - Made in UK by Nimbus (TOC) Tangerine Dream Exit Virgin CDV 2212 DIDZ 10089 - Made in Japan by Sony ["3XCSR"] ["Blue Face"]; Matrix: DIDZ-10089 11 (SUBQ) Third World You've Got The Power (1982) CBS/Sony 35DP-36 1st Japanese Gold-Face pressing.35DP-36-1 1A2 (SUBQ) Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers Southern Accents MCAD-5486 (JVC Japan-for-USA) Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers Southern Accents US DIDX IFPI (SUBQ) Toto Hydra 35DP 42 Toto Isolation Japan CBS/Sony 32DP 181 Toto Isolation Japan for Europe - CDCBS 86305 Toto IV 35DP 12 (including “collection box” set) Toto IV 450088 2 (CDCBS-85529 41 D14 MASTERED BY DADC AUSTRIA) PE flags in TOC Toto IV CDCBS 85529 (matrix 35DP-12 131A11 +++++) (SUBQ) Toto Turn Back (CK36813, matrix DIDP-050005 2 + ++ +++++) USA made, DADC logo stamped in hub (TOC) Toto Turn Back 35DP 5 (including “collection box” set) Tsukasa Itoh Tsukasa 1983 Japan Record 35JC-5, matrix 35JC-5 41A9 +++++ (SUBQ) Ultravox Vienna CCD 1296 (UK Chrysalis) Vangelis L'Apocalypse des Animaux Polydor 831 503-2 Vangelis Opera Sauvage European CD, possibly the same one still in print now Velvet Underground VU Walter Bishop Milestones Black Lion Records West Germany Weather Report 8:30 50DP 133~4 Weather Report Night Passage 35DP 8 35DP-8-2 1A7 crude font SUB Weather Report Weather Report 35DP 29 Sony Japan 35DP-29 21C2 +++++ neat font SUB Weather Report Procession 1983, catalog 35DP 46, CBS/Sony, Matrix: 35DP-46-1 1A1 (SUBQ) Whitney Houston Whitney Houston 32RD-1 [JVC Japan; 32RD - 31 - T2E05 thin font] Whitney Houston Whitney Houston ARC8212 2A1 5V Japan For US SUB Whitney Houston Whitney Houston ARCD 8212 [Denon Japan for US; ARCD-8212 2A8 61 dot matrix] Willie Nelson Always on My Mind CBS CK 37951 - Early DADC pressing Willie Nelson Always on My Mind CBS/Sony 35DP 28 Japan for Japan Willie Nelson Somewhere Over The Rainbow CBS/Sony 35DP 121 Japan for Japan Yasuko Tomita Mitsukete Kudasai 1984.07, Denon 38C31-7213 (SUBQ) Yasuko Tomita Shinshunki / Zenki Columbia 33C31-7412 (released 1985.04.01), matrix: C31-7412 81 5 10A1 57 7Z (SUBQ) Yellowman Rambo Moving Target MT 003 D - Made in Switzerland Yuji Toriyama A Taste Of Paradise 1995 bounce-0007, originally issued in 1985 (cat/no D32Y0017), so most likely original issue had PE too (TOC) Yumi Arai Hikouki Gumo 1973 (first CD release 35XA-1, 1983 November) matrix 35XA-1 11A5 +++++ (SUBQ) Yuming (Yumi Matsutoya) Pearl Pierce 1982 CA35-1001 (released 1982.11.1, this is the very first pressing) matrix CA35-1001-2 1A1 /crude font/, hub stamp: MANUFACTURED BY CBS/SONY RECORDS INC. flagged in subcode only Zubin Mehta Strauss: Also Sprach Zarathustra CBS Masterworks MK 35888 Japan "Manufactured By CBS/Sony Records Inc." on plastic hub, matrix: 38DC-10 101 Zubin Mehta, New York Philharmonic Beethoven - Symphony No. 3 CBS Masterworks MK 35883, UPC: 07464358832 Various artists Annie (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) (1982) CBS/Sony 35DP-37 1st Japanese Gold-Face pressing (SUBQ) Various artists Burning Ambitions (A History Of Punk) Cherry Red : CD DRED 3 (TOC) Various artists Cool Jazz, Hot Summer 2 (CDX 009) Projazz label sampler from 1989 - US Discovery Systems (TOC) Various artists More Adventures in Modern Sound WEA 240 568-2 (just track 6, What is Love by Howard Jones) N/A Beethoven: Sym. No. 5; Schubert: Sym. No. 8 [CD 36711; 38DC-1; DIDC 1; CBS/Sony Japan for Europe; crude font matrix] 38DC-1-1 158 (SUBQ) Various artists Chess RCA PCD2-5340 - RCA/Victor Made in Japan 1988 (SUBQ) Various artists Chess RCA PCD2-5340 - RCA/Victor Made in USA 1994 (TOC) N/A Masters of Classical Music, Vol. 2: Johann Sebastian Bach Laserlight 15 802, tracks 5,6,10,14 Various artists She's Having a Baby - OST N/A The Digital Domain: A Demonstration Elektra 9 60303-2 - some tracks N/A Tchaikovsky; 1812 Overture; Beethoven; Wellington's Victory MK 37252; DIDC 50009; DADC
If anyone wants to get into how best to present tabular data in a thread here, I've inquired in another thread. (Possibly there are no good options.)
Regarding the pre-emphasis list. I happen to have rips of my Howard Jones' CDs on my computer, and checked them out. The copy that I have is NOT just pre-emphasized, but is DolbyA encoded. It sounds like pre-emphasis, but has HF compression. I put up two of the songs from Howard Jones songs after being DolbyA decoded -- they are short snippets, but get the point across. One is from the 'Human's album and hte other is from "Dream into Action' Unfortunately, my rips are mp3 - but enough of the material is retained that the decoding works fine. My CDs are in storage, so I don't know the particulars, but they are most likely US domestic releases. I didn't set the calibration super carefully -- they sound 'okay', but might use some tuning. Sometimes the calibration has to be set withiin about 0.1dB for the best quality, and I could be as far off as a dB or so witih these examples. If I was doing whole albums, I could probably make it sound really good... Repository: Hightail Spaces
I did a little more careful decoding (still not 100% sure), also supplying samples of the original and the decoded versions on the repository. The original has 'Orig' in the filename, and 'DHDA' is decoded from the DolbyA encoded form by the DHNRDS decoder. Note that I ran three 45 second segments 60 seconds apart just to be nice and legit (for each of two songs.) However, if you listen carefully, and need to do A/B comparison -- the 'Orig' version sounds okay until you listen to the DHDA version. If you go 'back and forth' a few times, you might notice that the 'Orig' version has compressed highs, and the DHDA generally sounds more 'natural' (however natural the material can sound ). Very often -- these 'compressed highs' superficially sound like too much pre-emphasis, but if you listen to the decoded version -- it should become clear that the signal is encoded with an NR system called 'DolbyA'. It is IMPOSSIBLE to recover the sound just with some de-emphasis, but it is better to do so than just to leave the 'brash' & 'harsh' sound of DolbyA encoding fully intact. (Sometimes the distributors apply their own de-emphasis, so that can make it more challening to do a proper DolbyA decoding -- sometimes I have to add a few dB of 3k and/or 9k to be able to properly decode the material.) Here is the repository again: Hightail Spaces John
"Who can it be now" Just to add that; Men At Work – Business As Usual – 35-8P-15 21A8 (COMPACT DISC CSR x3) Pre flags are subcode only.
two more additions to list: Seiko Matsuda - Canary 1983 38DH 62 matrix: 38DH-62 11A2 mould text: CSR COMPACT DISC /3x... on both this and other CD in this post/ flags in subcode only Seiko Matsuda - Tinker Bell 1984 38DH 100 matrix: 38DH-100 21A1 flagged in TOC
Add an additional pressing for Nena "99 Luftballons." I long have been chasing a 35・8P or CSR Japan for US pressing on this title -- in order to get the original pre-emphasis mastering. But that 35 8P matrix disc has eluded me for the right price. Well, I got in and ripped today an early DADC pressing, and pre-emphasis popped up in the TOC. So, at least some early DADC also carry pre-emphasis. Comments: DI8P 50042 21A1 neat font; DADC center hub; upside down triangle on disc; pre-emphasis flags in TOC; 1983, 1984 CBS; Disc manufactured in Japan by CBS/Sony; no Now Made In The U.S.A. on back inlay; white disc tray Anyone with a 35 8P matrix disc likely should be able to confirm the mastering metrics below: Code: Analyzed: Nena / 99 Luftballons [EK 39294; DI8P 50042; DADC; pre-emphasis] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR14 0.00 dB -16.13 dB 4:45 01-99 Red Balloons DR15 0.00 dB -16.53 dB 4:31 02-? DR15 0.00 dB -18.05 dB 4:16 03-Hangin' On You DR12 -0.76 dB -14.72 dB 3:31 04-Just A Dream DR15 -1.52 dB -19.02 dB 4:53 05-Let Me Be Your Pirate DR12 -1.28 dB -16.23 dB 2:42 06-Kino DR14 -1.29 dB -18.09 dB 3:43 07-Das Land Der Elefanten DR12 -0.38 dB -15.49 dB 3:14 08-Leuchtturm DR14 0.00 dB -16.81 dB 3:19 09-Rette Mich DR13 -0.80 dB -17.71 dB 3:22 10-Uner Kannt Durch's Marchenland DR14 -0.23 dB -16.69 dB 3:53 11-99 Luftballons Code: 01 100.0 02 100.0 03 100.0 04 91.5 05 83.9 06 86.3 07 86.1 08 95.6 09 100.0 10 91.2 11 97.4 Edit: Another interesting twist. I thought that I noticed this when I was checking the DR Database and now have confirmed it with one of my own rips. The IFPI repressing, circa early 2000s, appears to be just a -1.2 dB level shift. But here is the kicker -- it retains the pre-emphasis mastering yet loses all pre-emphasis flags. Sony mastered the repressing from an old PCM 1600 tape or from an extant CD, consistently cut the levels across all tracks, and did not apply digital de-emphasis. Code: Analyzed: Nena / 99 Luftballons -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR14 -1.20 dB -17.37 dB 4:45 01-99 Red Balloons DR15 -1.20 dB -17.73 dB 4:31 02-? (Fragezeichen) DR15 -1.20 dB -19.25 dB 4:16 03-Hangin' on You DR12 -1.96 dB -15.92 dB 3:31 04-Just a Dream DR14 -2.72 dB -20.22 dB 4:53 05-Let Me Be Your Pirate DR12 -2.48 dB -17.35 dB 2:42 06-Kino DR14 -2.49 dB -19.29 dB 3:42 07-Das Land der Elefanten DR12 -1.58 dB -16.69 dB 3:14 08-Leuchtturm DR15 -1.20 dB -18.01 dB 3:19 09-Rette mich DR13 -2.00 dB -18.91 dB 3:22 10-Unerkannt durch's Märchenland DR13 -1.42 dB -17.89 dB 3:53 11-99 Luftballons AJ
Nice find! Took me forever to find a CMU Pitman Journey-Escape, sure enough it carried over. Think it's the only Pre CMU disc I've come across.
See edit above. Looks like the "99 Luftballons" pre-emphasis mastering can be found secretly on most/all EK 39294, even recent repressings. So, maybe not a hard find if all one wants is the original mastering -1.2 dB. AJ
Well crap, isn't that something. Lazy lazy Thinking this was probably accidentally missed with Petty's Southern Accents. I picked up one from a Walmart bargain bin a couple years ago. IFPI PE-SUB Q Wonder if that Nena un eq'd mastering made it's way to the digital download arena. I do have a later Lionel Richie that carry's I think the same levels as the old pre disc without any tags.
Enjoy your disc and don't bother with an original 35・8P. I have one and mine doesn't have pre-emphasis flags although the mastering needs it. Very irritating. Corrected it digitally, for streaming purposes, but playing the disc itself on my main system makes no sense, of course.
But which 35・8P do you have? There are two with similar content. "Nena" [35・8P-38] "Nena (International Album)" aka "99 Luftballons" [35・8P-42] As far as I know, only the latter has been reported to include pre-emphasis. Both 35DP and 35・8P were positioned in the early 1980s as state of the art, premium disc series. I would be surprised if an honest to goodness 35DP, 35・8P, 38DC, etc., were mastered with pre-emphasis -- but missing both subcode and TOC flags. AJ