It’s great you posted a picture. ...and if you would be so kind to type the CDs in a post, the data would also become searchable.
List of CDs with PRE flags in TOC : Men At Work - Business As Usual Men At Work - Business As Usual Men At Work - Cargo Mountain - Go For Your Life Sandra - The Long Play Boulez* Conducts Stravinsky*, New York Philharmonic* - The Firebird (Complete Original 1910 Version) Mussorgsky* ~ Stravinsky*, Geoffrey Saba - Piano Recital - Pictures At An Exhibition • The Firebird Pet Shop Boys - Please Pet Shop Boys - Please Michael Jackson - Thriller Michael Jackson - Thriller Vladimir Vissotski* - Le Vol Arrêté Gary Moore - Corridors Of Power Billy Cobham's Glassmenagerie* - Stratus The Gun Club - Fire Of Love David Cross - Memos From Purgatory David Cross - Memos From Purgatory Michel Portal - Turbulence https://www.discogs.com/Tav-Falco-Panther-Burns-Red-Devil-Sugar-Ditch-Revisited/release/2152493 https://www.discogs.com/Tav-Falcos-Panther-Burns-The-World-We-Knew/release/389104 https://www.discogs.com/The-Cramps-Smell-Of-Female/release/602341 https://www.discogs.com/Jamaaladeen-Tacuma-Show-Stopper/release/2260293 https://www.discogs.com/James-Watkins-Jamaaladeen-Tacuma-Intense/release/1401113 https://www.discogs.com/The-Golden-Palominos-Visions-Of-Excess/release/10623742 https://www.discogs.com/The-Golden-Palominos-Blast-Of-Silence/release/1073792 https://www.discogs.com/Bill-Laswell-Baselines/release/3272822 https://www.discogs.com/Jonas-Hellborg-Onkyo-Proudly-Presents-Jonas-Hellborg/release/1976413 https://www.discogs.com/Das-Pferd-Das-Pferd/release/2020407 https://www.discogs.com/Ginger-Baker-Horses-And-Trees/release/7886966 https://www.discogs.com/Valentina-Ponomareva-Live-In-Japan/release/1800907 https://www.discogs.com/Material-One-Down/release/1944412 https://www.discogs.com/Black-Sabbath-Paranoid/release/6390351 https://www.discogs.com/Propeller-Island-The-Secret-Convention/release/395272 https://www.discogs.com/Steve-Roach-Empetus/release/305026 https://www.discogs.com/Steve-Roach-Now-Traveler/release/23610 https://www.discogs.com/Steve-Roach-Dreamtime-Return/release/15064
Are you sure pre-emphasis was detected on that Brothers in Arms? I've heard claims that it is one of those that should have pre-emphasis, but I've never heard anyone claim that flags were actually detected. If so, what is in the matrix?
Brothers in Arms Checked a later Vertigo Japan – PHCR 1122 which does not have flags for pre-emphasis TOC or Sub. The levels are; 79.4 / 79.4 / 44.7 / 33 / 18 / 57.6 / 54.9 / 71.1 / 44.9 DR; 20 / 18 / 13 / 14 / 13 / 17 / 14 / 18 / 15
No PE found (TOC/SUBQ) in the Matsushita Japan for US. But I never suspected it to have it. Peaks are identical to his except for #4 on his link to discogs Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR20 0.00 dB -21.91 dB 5:12 01-So Far Away DR19 0.00 dB -21.38 dB 8:26 02-Money for Nothing DR13 -5.95 dB -21.49 dB 4:12 03-Walk of Life DR14 -7.78 dB -24.88 dB 6:34 04-Your Latest Trick DR13 -12.70 dB -28.90 dB 8:31 05-Why Worry DR17 -2.43 dB -23.32 dB 6:58 06-Ride Across the River DR14 -2.18 dB -21.79 dB 4:40 07-The Man's Too Strong DR18 0.00 dB -20.38 dB 3:41 08-One World DR15 -4.00 dB -23.49 dB 6:56 09-Brothers in Arms --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I dont detect flags on TOC - but I listened CD without de-emphasis mode on Esoteric D-70VU - it sounds tereble to me ,when I add de-emphasis mode its sounds very clear and dynamic !
Ah, we don't include those on our list. Interesting to talk about, but this list is only CD's that have actual flags for can positively be identified to be identical mastering to one that does have flags. So, unless you verify they actually have flags in the subcode, please don't say that they do.
Ok! I try to detect it on another DAC - my current Esoteric D-70VU dont have indicator of pre-emphasis, and I based on my hearing. CDs from my last listing all detected PRE flag on EAC.
Merle Haggard & Willie Nelson-Pancho & Lefty It is on the list, confirmed TOC, Canada uses the US DADC Stamp manufacture.
Weather Report - Black Market (35 DP 130). PE flags not detected in TOC, but I can confirm that this was mastered with pre-emphasis by listening comparing the CD played on a CD player with the extracted files.
I don't know which version of BIA you tested here, but I own the exact mastering that you linked to on Discogs (same barcode at least), and I just tested it with both EAC as well as with my foolproof method of feeding the output of my Sony CD player into my Direct Stream DAC (which has an indicator), and neither method identified preemphasis on this CD.
Found it today, but after listening I think I like the later “classical” version better. On the other hand, I know the Deutsche Grammophon version better, so it’s kind of a biased comparison, currently. BTW, does your copy also have “tape problems”? Like the stereo image narrowing a couple of times at the end of America?
Yes - I mistaken with this release Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms today - I checked all CDs from my list - and can confirm all Men At Work - Business As Usual Men At Work - Business As Usual Men At Work - Cargo Mountain - Go For Your Life Sandra - The Long Play Sandra - The Long Play Boulez* Conducts Stravinsky*, New York Philharmonic* - The Firebird (Complete Original 1910 Version) Mussorgsky* ~ Stravinsky*, Geoffrey Saba - Piano Recital - Pictures At An Exhibition • The Firebird Pet Shop Boys - Please Pet Shop Boys - Please Michael Jackson - Thriller Michael Jackson - Thriller Vladimir Vissotski* - Le Vol Arrêté Gary Moore - Corridors Of Power Billy Cobham's Glassmenagerie* - Stratus The Gun Club - Fire Of Love David Cross - Memos From Purgatory David Cross - Memos From Purgatory Michel Portal - Turbulence Tav Falco Panther Burns* - Red Devil / Sugar Ditch Revisited Tav Falco's Panther Burns - The World We Knew The Cramps - Smell Of Female Jamaaladeen Tacuma - Show Stopper James Watkins - Jamaaladeen Tacuma - Intense The Golden Palominos - Visions Of Excess The Golden Palominos - Blast Of Silence Bill Laswell - Baselines Jonas Hellborg - Onkyo Proudly Presents - Jonas Hellborg Das Pferd.* - Das Pferd. Ginger Baker - Horses And Trees Valentina Ponomareva* - Live In Japan Material - One Down Black Sabbath - Paranoid Propeller Island - The Secret Convention Steve Roach - Empetus Steve Roach - Now / Traveler Steve Roach - Dreamtime Return + Jean-Michel Jarre - Zoolook
I have purchased the Black Sabbath - Master of Reality (Creative Sounds, made in Canada). I've read it somewhere that this eddition has pre-emphasis, but it doesn't show in EAC. Can anyone enlighten me? Thank you.
The Zoolook release your linking to (the "03" matrix) does not have pre-emphasis. On the "02" matrix, some tracks have it. This is the correct entry for that.
I don't remember whether it does or not. I have both this version and "classical DG" version (btw the latter CD came in smooth edge case, maybe one of last titles to do so), I think I liked original more.
new addition: Naoko Kawai "Album" Denon 35C31-7168 (released 1984.06.21) matrix C-31-7168 1B1-46 flags in subcode only
Guys, please, someone suggest me an external cd drive that I can use to detect sub-coded pre-emaphasis cds on my 1998 laptop. I have that specific prebeta EAC that runs flawlessly on that ancient laptop but my 2018 made external usb cd drive won't detect subcoded preemphasis discs. I'm told that only older cd drives models will be able to read those discs properly. How you guys detect sub-coded cds? Thanks in advance. (I was going through my cd collection to check them on my old laptop and the internal disc drive died on me halfway through.) P.S.: Also, what's the verdict on Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms first press cd? Is it pre-emphasized? Thank you
Why not just replace the internal drive? they are usually of one of few standards so it wouldn't be hard to get another one fitting. Just unscrew one or two screws on laptop bottom and you can take it out to replace. The cover can be taken off and put on the replacement drive.
You haven't found one yet Pete? My old Samsung TS-H662A works. @Steve Martin what model are you using for SUB?
No, not yet. I have tried a quite a few external cd drives but no luck. However, I might be able to get ahold of a vintage cd player that has emphasis sign on the display when such disc is being played so I might just get that and stop playing trial and error with sundry usb cd drives!
I have a vintage Toshiba 1612K drive which detects some disks. But it still only can tell me which CDs have pre-emphasis about 50% of the time. So this is not a reliable way to determine this. If you didn't already have such a nice vintage DAC, I'd tell you to look for a DAC which tells you when CDs have pre-emphasis. And BIA does not have preemphasis.