Pre emphasis list?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by andyinstal, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. c-eling

    c-eling Fruit Juice Everywhere

    My Seagulls Allied DT manufacture carries pre-emphasis :) 90's IFPI
     
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  2. kevin5brown

    kevin5brown Analog or bust.

    Dang. Which song?
     
  3. Duke Fame

    Duke Fame Sold out the Enormodome

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    Rainbow Eyes.
     
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  4. kevin5brown

    kevin5brown Analog or bust.

    I re-eq'ed some of their other albums to match the songs on this set. Need to see if I used that song or not! :) Thanks!
     
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  5. SimonSaysCake

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  6. SimonSaysCake

    SimonSaysCake Forum Resident

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  7. earshot

    earshot Compact Disc Digital Audio

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  8. Cuyler

    Cuyler Forum Resident

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    Carpenters – Voice of the Heart
    A&M Records, Manufactured by Alfa Records
    Released on December 21, 1983
    Matrix: 38XB-4 11A3
    Carpenters – Voice Of The Heart (1983, CD)

    I can provide cue sheets and AccurateRip logs upon request. :)
     
  9. c-eling

    c-eling Fruit Juice Everywhere

    Nice find!
    Not surprising, the early Denon 38C series all have it. Flag=SUBQ :)
     
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  10. Bertly

    Bertly Senior Member

    I don't know how to check for pre emphasis, as it never shows up in Exact Audio Copy for known discs,
    but Gerry Rafferty - 'Night Owl' (CDP 7 46610 _ made in Japan for US)
    is uncomfortably bright sounding.
     
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  11. c-eling

    c-eling Fruit Juice Everywhere

    An old pre-beta of EAC is needed to detect SUBQ flags.
     
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  12. Cuyler

    Cuyler Forum Resident

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    For me, when I use XLD (on Mac), it saves "FLAGS PRE" in the final CUE sheet on discs that EAC does not recognize as having pre-emphasis.
     
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  13. kevin5brown

    kevin5brown Analog or bust.

    EAC 0.95 pre-beta 3 detects all PE flags.
     
  14. Downsampled

    Downsampled Forum Resident

    That’s interesting. I’ve never looked very closely at the CUE sheets from XLD.
     
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  15. Yost

    Yost “It’s only impossible until it’s not”

    XLD will find all pre-emphasis flags wherever they are. And list them in the cue sheet. I use it all the time. But you have to change its default settings to create a cue sheet, iirc. It’s somewhere on the forum. :sweating:
     
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  16. Cuyler

    Cuyler Forum Resident

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    Yes! When I rip my discs for archival purposes, I always choose to rip them as a WAV, "Save as Single File + CUE." Then, if I want to make individual tracks (i.e. for iTunes or VLC or Audacity), I use XLD to convert and "Include pre-gap for all tracks." It's a great piece of software!
     
  17. Veovis

    Veovis Forum Resident

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    For PC users, Cueripper detects pre-emphasis in the subcode as well as in the TOC. Discovered PE on a few of my BIS classical discs when dBpoweramp reported nothing.
     
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  18. seastman

    seastman Forum Resident

    INXS - INXSIVE (1988, Disctronics, Australia)
    Only official CD release of this comp. I'll check the CUE sheet when I get home to see where the flag is stored.
     
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  19. Omnio

    Omnio _ _ _ ____ ____ _ _ _

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    You mean any version of that program is suitable for detecting pre-emphasis when sub-coded? I guess one would still need one of those ancient cd-roms to get the job done...:(
     
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  20. c-eling

    c-eling Fruit Juice Everywhere

    Right. Not all are compatible.
     
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  21. Veovis

    Veovis Forum Resident

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    I think I'm pretty much up to date with the Cuetools package (of which Cueripper is part) and I use a fairly new Pioneer CD/DVD/blu-ray USB drive for ripping. Not ancient by any stretch. Why should age (generation) of the CD-drive matter for detecting pre-emph? Or are you confusing this with the ability to read lead in/out sections of CD:s?
     
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  22. c-eling

    c-eling Fruit Juice Everywhere

    No clue. I went through 3 drives, more recent one's that wouldn't detect SUBQ. My older one, early 2000's did.
     
  23. Omnio

    Omnio _ _ _ ____ ____ _ _ _

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    What is fairly new in your case? And your Pioneer can indeed detect both TOC and sub-coded pre-emphasis info?
     
  24. Veovis

    Veovis Forum Resident

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    It's a Pioneer BDR-XD05 and I bought it two years ago.

    Just tested BIS CD-247, Carl Nielsen Symphony Nr.2. dBPoweramp does not detect pre-emphasis (as it should if the "flag" is in the TOC). Ripping the CD with the Pioneer drive and Cueripper 2.1.6 results in a cue file with "FLAGS PRE". So I figured it must get that info from the subcode. Which is unusual for BIS CD:s. Most that have pre-emphasis (and many do) have been detected by dBPoweramp through the TOC.

    I know it was the same story with one more BIS CD. I thought it was BIS CD-237, Sibelius Symphony Nr. 6 etc., but now neither dBPoweramp nor Cueripper detects pre-emphasis. A quick listen to the CD on the computer doesn't reveal any obvious pre-emph and the de-emphed flac files sound dull. So I may have made a mistake with that one (or the drive is indeed not really trustworthy...).
     
  25. Omnio

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    *Denon New Releases Classical Sampler 1985/1986 Made in Japan by Nippon Colombia Co. Ltd. (GES-9079) matrix GES-9079 1A2 58 (Sub-coded)

    I got this cd on me right now and Iwanna give it a last shot with my current cd-rom. I just kinda got out of shape ripping pre-emph cds so how exactly I retrieve the info from this disc via EAC? I have that ancient version of this program that can detect sub-coded pre-emphasis, to boot. I gotta do it manually, as far as Ican remember...
     
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