Predicting the Movie Hits & Bombs of 2022

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  1. alexpop

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    Bones And All?
    Pretty good.
    Excellently directed, acted.
    If cannibalism ~ love story is your bag.
     
  2. brucewayneofgotham

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    Yes, I am thinking , 800 mil - 900 mil , which would be a bomb (based on expectations)
     
  3. Vidiot

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    I dunno. I said (very loudly) back in 1997, "there's no way that Titanic could be a hit, because a) we already know the story, b) historical costume dramas don't do well anymore, and c) everybody dies at the end." I have since learned to never underestimate James Cameron.
     
  4. mBen989

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    Because most studios have given up on an approach Jeffrey Katzenberg in his famous memo referred to as "singles and doubles".
     
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  5. MikaelaArsenault

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  6. Vidiot

    Vidiot Now in 4K HDR! Thread Starter

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    I think even Jeffrey Katzenberg screwed up with the 5 or 6 cartoon bombs he made in the last 12 years, which eventually resulted in Dreamworks Animation being sold to Universal. And Katzenberg also crashed and burned with the online streaming service Quibi, which promised to serve people entertainment on their phones in "10-minute, bite-sized chunks." There's a lavish office building 3 blocks from my office that used to be Quibi headquarters here in Hollywoo, and it's been sitting completely empty for more than a year since they went under.

    Doh, an even bigger bomb than The Good Dinosaur (which cost $200 and only made $332, which is not nearly enough to even break even). Onward -- which I saw and liked, but didn't love -- cost $200 and only made $142M, which is an even bigger bomb. And don't get me started on John Carter, Lone Ranger, or Tomorrowland -- all live-action Disney film bombs from people who should've known better.
     
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  7. Slackhurst Broadcasting

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    Quibi seemed to have been invented by people who'd never heard of Youtube.
     
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  8. Ghostworld

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    "Strange World" seems to be tanking. I don't know why. I just watched the trailer. It looks EXACTLY like every other Disney cartoon - same kinds of stock characters and humor. Luck of the draw, probably. How one of these can bomb and another doesn't is beyond me as they're all from the same cookie cutter. "Encanto' no doubt tapped into the huge latino market.

    But when my kids were little I had to go see every DAMN ONE of these cartoons. Thank god they grew up. By the time "How to Train Your Dragon" rolled around, I was taking naps in the theater ten minutes after they started, trying to forget about shelling out for another Disney/Pixar cartoon. Brrrr. I remembered when going to a movie was an event...growing up in the Disney/Pixar age where there was a new one seemingly every month... it became a dreaded chore. CARS 2, anyone?

    I agree with the poster who said Disney+ is going to cut into box office. Especially with parents like myself who got sick of paying for their movies and are probably saying: "It'll be streaming in two months..."
     
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  9. MikaelaArsenault

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  10. bubba-ho-tep

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    Maybe the writing is simply crappy. I know that there are a lot of people want to place part of the blame for the poor performance of some movies on streaming but how do you explain the box office success of movies like Wakanda Forever?

    I think that there are still plenty of moviegoers out there who will pay for the theater experience - just not for movies that suck.

    DISCLAIMER: I haven’t seen “Strange World” but know people who have and were very underwhelmed by it.
     
  11. Jim B.

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    Strange World has not had great reviews, so that does have an effect. All animated films are not the same and the audience score is pretty low.

    Secondly people keep saying they didn't know about this film coming out. Now perhaps Disney realised it was bad and decided not to spend much promoting it as they knew it would bomb. Throwing good money after bad. Whatever, little or no promotion is going to effect the box office hugely.

    There is a third reason why I guess some parents didn't want to take their kids to the film. I'm not making any judgement either way but there are people clearly who think this type of thing has no place in a film aimed at pre-teens? Who knows.
     
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  12. Deuce66

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    The results for this weekend.

    Black Panther - weekend results $181.3 million weekend 1 - $66.48 million weekend 2 - $45.9 million weekend #3 a drop of 31%.

    Strange World is going to lose an absolute ton of $$, might be in the running for bomb of the year.


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  13. Crack To The Egg

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    Strange World is another level of bomb for Disney. Word of mouth is bad, with a B Cinema Score. This is the first time Disney animation has gotten anything less than an A-.

    Disney clearly left it out to dry with virtually no marketing to support it release, but it’s apparent they were cutting their losses.

    Devotion’s box office is also not great for a movie with a 90 million dollar movie. Even with a big role in the widely seen Top Gun:Maverick, Glen Powell’s star power appears to be nil.

    Glass Onion should have been a wide theatrical release, but I think Netflix is flexing their muscles there by leaving money on the table.
     
  14. Vidiot

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    Aaaaaaaand... it's official.

    Disney's 'Strange World' to Lose $100 Million at Box Office - Variety

    I hope it pops up omn Disney+ within the next month, because I kind of like the idea -- it's essentially a retread of Journey to the Center of the Earth plus a few other 1950s movies, but done in a modern way with a younger cast. I don't doubt that it didn't sit well with contemporary audiences.
     
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  15. 64FALCON

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    → Instead of watching STRANGE WORLD, Vidiot, may I recommend you to the 1983 "period piece" JOYSTICKS directed by Greydon Clark? It stars Joe Don Baker, Corinne Bohrer (will full 'Valley Girl' speech pattern) and also features actor 'Jon Gries' as "King Vidiot". If you've never seen it -- now's the time! :righton:
     
  16. MikaelaArsenault

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  17. alexpop

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    Preferred it Avatar that’s for sure.
     
  18. Ghostworld

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    from variety :

    “Strange World” continues a bleak streak for Disney’s animated offerings, which have long been considered the gold standard. Yet the studio, which bucked tradition by putting Pixar movies like “Soul” and “Luca” directly on Disney+ during the pandemic, hasn’t been able to properly reacquaint those audiences with theatrical releases. Some analysts believe the studio may have inadvertently conditioned families to watch new movies on its popular streaming service.
     
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  19. Ghostworld

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    When I was a kid I read all the John Carter books and waited a lifetime to see those movies so I was pretty disappointed in the movie. I need to watch it again
     
  20. Ghostworld

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    I was over at the Headfi headphones forum When SACD reared its head. It was like this constant battle. Is it failing? Is it not failing? Are they ever going to release anything? Where can I get this release there’s so few copies? What a nightmare that format was. Like you say it was dead in the water. Only a few of us geeks on the Internet even cared about it. I went to the trouble of buying an SaCD player Just so I could finally experienced it after the torture. I was underwhelmed. Too bright. Years of thinking about SACD and it got summed up in two words: “too bright.” Even digital rips of SACD sound like crap to me. My damn system was good, too.


    I was heavily in the mini disc. It was cool but I always worried about that delicate eject mechanism. Those menus were finicky too
     
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  21. Vidiot

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    And here's an interesting analysis of exactly why Strange World bombed, mentioning in passing the unexpected flop of Lightyear:

    Why Strange World Bombed At The Box Office (& What It Means For Disney)

    Just as with video: it's all in the mastering.
     
  22. alexpop

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    The Menu ?
    Now this was good.
     
  23. Deuce66

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    Weekend numbers have been updated, here's the TOP 20 of 2022 Worldwide so far. I think Black Panther will finish up in 5th spot.

    Rank/Title/WW Total $/Domestic $/International $

    1- Top Gun: Maverick $1,486,657,763 $716,657,763 48.2% $770,000,000 51.8%
    2- Jurassic World: Dominion $1,001,136,080 $376,009,080 37.6% $625,127,000 62.4%
    3- Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness $955,775,804 $411,331,607 43% $544,444,197 57%
    4- Minions: The Rise of Gru $939,220,210 $369,500,210 39.3% $569,720,000 60.7%
    5- The Batman $770,836,163 $369,345,583 47.9% $401,490,580 52.1%

    6- Thor: Love and Thunder $760,928,081 $343,256,830 45.1% $417,671,251 54.9%
    7- Black Panther: Wakanda Forever $676,036,389 $367,471,452 54.4% $308,564,937 45.6%
    8- Water Gate Bridge $626,571,697 $117,294 <0.1% $626,454,403 100%
    9- Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore $405,161,334 $95,850,844 23.7% $309,310,490 76.3%
    10- Sonic the Hedgehog 2 $402,656,846 $190,872,904 47.4% $211,783,942 52.6%

    11- Uncharted $401,748,820 $148,648,820 37% $253,100,000 63%
    12- Black Adam $377,736,860 $162,836,860 43.1% $214,900,000 56.9%
    13- Elvis $286,040,048 $151,040,048 52.8% $135,000,000 47.2%
    14- The Bad Guys $250,162,278 $97,233,630 38.9% $152,928,648 61.1%
    15- Bullet Train $239,268,602 $103,368,602 43.2% $135,900,000 56.8%

    16- Lightyear $226,425,420 $118,307,188 52.2% $108,118,232 47.8%
    17- Too Cool to Kill $217,254,604 $185,882 <0.1% $217,068,722 99.9%
    18- Smile $215,669,241 $105,469,241 48.9% $110,200,000 51.1%
    19- Nice View $211,019,042 - - $211,019,042 100%
    20- DC League of Super-Pets $203,856,188
     
  24. Chrome_Head

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    I'm really surprised at the box office take for Dr Strange 2 (still haven't watched it), who I consider to be a second or third-tier Marvel character, particularly when stacked up to Thor and Black Panther.
     
  25. alexpop

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    Seen at least half the films in the list, not interested in other ten.
    Best film ? Elvis!!!!
    Bullet Train was ok.
     
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