OK... here it is folks.. " it's really very simple. There are 2 or 3 independent distributors who are not ingested yet. They handle dozens of labels each, tens of thousands of albums. The ingestion of the millions of tracks takes weeks of server time! It is happening starting next week. It is very unlikely that there will be significant gaps once all this repertoire is online. " - Dan from Qobuz There you go. From the man himself.
I appreciate that very much. Thank you for passing along my comments. I had David Craft, European Product Manager, as well as Sebastien, attempting to help me out with some severe issues relating to the Windows app running on Windows 10 Professional going as far back as September of last year. I will not raise my own personal issues with the desktop app here; let's just say it needs work and leave it at that. Fortunately, I was able to enjoy the last couple of weeks of my trial via Roon. I am a huge fan of their service and am pulling for them. I will continue to check in as things progress. I think most folks will be patient. Thanks for reaching out to Dan, State!
Like I said before - US and EU tastes in music are drastically different. Where are you guys seeing the gaps the most?
It's pretty noticable across all genres if you're doing a direct comparison between Qobuz and Spotify, or one of the other services. I'm giving them benefit of the doubt that they'll fill it in soon. I just keep a subscription to YouTube Premium (includes YouTube Music and Google Play) to cover the rest for now.
Oh geez, State. Hmmm...I mean, I did spend the better part of a couple of days comparing bands from both my personal collection and my streaming favorites, where I have mirrored everything I own, plus a good deal more. I'll have to think after work to go back for particular examples, but, it's easy to see with Roon and the "Versions" tab, where I could see my 3-4 copies of a great record that I might own, followed by the Tidal versions, followed by Qobuz. If you look at a particular artist, Roon puts badges on an album to indicate where the album can be found, Tidal/Qobuz or both. There are far more Qobuz badges missing than Tidal right now. Camel is one band I can think of. There are many more. I know that doesn't help anyone. Give me time.
A random letter in the alphabet after a very brief & cursory check. Albums missing from Blind Willie McTell, Black Flag, and Between the Buried & Me. What a cross-section of talent! It's not artists/bands I find lacking in Qobuz right now, it's depth of discography. I'm certain things will improve in short order.
The huge whole among major artists and labels involving jazz music of the last 30 years is my problem. None of the Hathut related labels -- a Swiss, not US label btw -- so lots of missing material from major artists like Cecil Taylor, Anthony Braxton, Steve Lacy, Myra Melford, Joe McPhee. Nothing from the Firehouse 12 label which has much of the major work of a lot of the top contemporary jazz artists -- Mary Halvorson, Tyshawn Sorrey, etc. Nothing from the Clean Feed label -- a Portuguese not US label btw -- so missing new works from well known contemporary jazz artists like Tony Malaby and Kris Davis. Nothing from trumpeter Dave Douglas' Greenleaf label. All this stuff is available on Spotify and Tidal. Basically, I use streaming to keep up with new releases in the genre's I'm most interested in, and jazz is chief among those, and Qobuz is fatally lacking in major material in new and contemporary jazz that the other platforms have (Qobuz does have a deeper catalog of Soul Note/Black Saint recordings than Tidal does, in that regard Qobuz is competitive with Spotify, but in these other areas, nothing at all).
I keep checking the Qobuz library to see, but meanwhile I'm not going to pay for the music that someday I might be able to listen to on the platform. I'll be waiting before thinking about reactivating my subscription.
Well - I will see what I can do. Again, I'm not on the payroll. Really just a concerned consumer who has a few contacts in that world. I think companies like this are helping to improve the loudness wars, and are helping the push for better mastering. If the consensus is we want better mastering, it doesn't matter if its 16/44.1, it'll sound great. I think Tidal putting additional steps in a signal, or folds, isn't progressive. My opinion, but also not trying to get the thread into a MQA/PCM debate. But, lets face it, that is what Tidal represents and implements currently.
I don't think MQA is progressive for the industry, either. Fortunately, I can elect to ignore it and still have access to every 16/44 album they offer.
Many of the independent labels I usually listen to are currently absent from Qobuz (Thirty Tigers, Fat Wreck). Mostly Americana and Punk.
OK... so Americana, Punk, and contemporary Jazz thus far. I'm actually pushing for the 24/44.1 files for the Beatles to be included myself.
I made the switch and I'm happy. MQA is just too divisive and confusing, and I had no interest in supporting it any further (even indirectly). Going through my list, about 10% of my Tidal library is not available on Qobuz. Fortunately, I've got high bitrate MP3's for about half of those, so the amount of pre-switch music I'm currently missing right now is less than 5% (with all of those available of Google Play Music, which I am also subscribed to).
[I posted this on the Tidal vs Qobuz thread as well, so forgive the repeat] Question for anyone who knows: If all I am interested in is CD-quality streaming (1411 kbps, 16-bit, 44.1kHz) on my iPhone with a nice pair of Grado headphones, and both Tidal Hifi and Qobuz Hifi cost the same $20 per month, what are the differences in the services? Hi-Res is not on my radar at the moment. Do these services sound different? Should they sound different? Do either of them do gapless playback? So far the only difference that’s significant to me is that Godspeed You Black Emperor’s best album (Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven) is currently unavailable on Qobuz. That's a bit of a bummer.
I think you would be hard pressed to hear a difference. I think it would come down to the UI and what is easier to use for you. I'm not entirely sure if even CD files are used with MQA encoding to reduce bandwidth. I would call look it up or contact tidal.
It's not just contemporary jazz either. Like today I was listening to the classic UK/South African early '70s jazz debut of Chris Macgregor's Brotherhood of Breath on Tidal. I checked, it's not on Qobuz. And then apropos a conversation on another thread about jazz in 1969 I went to listen to Archie Shepp's Yasmina, a Black Woman -- it's on Spotify and Tidal but not Qobuz, similarly Don Cherry's Mu, in fact it looks like all those classic jazz recordings of Americans in France in '69 that were originally on the BYG Actuel on Cherry, Shepp, Art Ensemble, etc are MIA on Qobuz. While I was on a Shepp kick I looked for his classic mid-'70s live album Montreux One, it's up on Tidal but not on Qobuz (it's not on Spotify either). The jazz holes on the Qobuz library are gaping compared to the competition.
I’ve been satisfied with the content but I’m experiencing constant dropouts that make Quboz unlistenable. Both on the Quboz app on my iPhone and running Quboz through Logitech Media I get dropouts every few seconds.
I'm not support, but maybe I can offer some help to you. It's most likely your Wi-fi connection. Most people who experience this, it isn't on the service side of things. I would reset your router, and if that doesn't help change the channel which you're on. If all else fails, use a wired ethernet connection to stream. One thing to note, iPhone's (with Tidal, Qobuz, audio in general) are only capable of 24/48khz audio. So, I would find a different transport if possible.
I got a message from "Windows Defender" just now... Windows Defender Firewall has blocked some features of Qobuz on all public and private networks Name: Qobuz Publisher: Qobuz Path: C:\users\treehouse\appdata\local\qobuz\app-5.0.3-b013\qobuz.exe Any other Windows users get this? Just want to make sure that it is legit. Thanks!
Looks legit - run the path through AVG or Malwarebites. See if anything comes up. I think it's looking for access their server from your IP.
Ok, great! Thanks for your reply. Edit: I now have an updated Qobuz desktop app, so it is good to know that Qobuz is working on making the app better for Windows users.
You're welcome. Welcome to having the best streaming service you'll ever hear. May I suggest Muddy Waters Folk Singer? It's the blackest I have ever heard any background.
Disappointing service from Qobuz. I signed up for the 1 free month and at the end of the month they billed me for another month without asking if I want to continue. I contacted them and quit, opted out. I used it for 2 days before quitting so I have to pay the full month. I cannot quit and pay for the 2 days. I am stuck with the full month even though I never agreed to a subscription, just the 1 month trial.
