Queen "A night at the opera" poll

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Sear, Dec 16, 2020.

  1. NettleBed

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    Some people mistakenly think that "masterpiece" merely means something they like a lot. The word "masterpiece" implies excellence/achievement independent of whether or not someone likes it. There must be more to justify the use and if the "more" can't be provided, then the word "masterpiece" should not be used.
     
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  2. carlwm

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    Interesting post. :righton:

    Leaving quality arguments aside, I certainly enjoy A Night At The Opera more than I do Sgt Pepper.
     
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  3. carlwm

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    That's fair enough.

    Some folks in these parts though do get a bit antsy unless you press home the point that your statements are merely opinions.

     
  4. George Co-Stanza

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    I am a huge Queen fan, but I don't think A Night at the Opera is their masterpiece. I give that distinction to Sheer Heart Attack.

    A Night at the Opera is a heckuva listen from start to finish, but oddly it only has three songs now that I will seek out on their own - Bohemian Rhapsody, '39 and Death on Two Legs. The rest is mostly good, although I find the middle section of The Prophet's Song to be way too overcooked (the constant "and now I know!"s are kind of annoying).

    So I give it a very, very good.
     
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  5. cjc

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    Masterpiece....
     
  6. Ernold

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    I agree that Sheer Heart Attack is a better album. In my opinion, of course. I actually think that one of the finest moments on it is among their most overlooked songs... She Makes Me.
     
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  7. Rose River Bear

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    On various technical levels, the album is considered a masterpiece of rock music by musicologists.
    The song Bohemian Rhapsody is a masterpiece on a technical level the way it incorporates motivic techniques, modulations, harmony and repetition to portray the various subjects and emotional displays in the song. The use of dynamics and the modulatory scheme are brilliant in how certain keys are used to portray different emotions of the main character.

    However, you may not like the performances or whatever but on some levels the album is considered a masterpiece by musicologists and musicians.

    I don't like some of the songs so, overall on a subjective level, I will say 4/5.
    On a technical level, 5/5 without a doubt.
     
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  8. Rose River Bear

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    BR's title is wrong however.........it is more along the lines of Sonata Form than Rhapsodic. :p
     
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  9. Ernold

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    I think one of the key things about Opera for me is that, yes, Bo Rhap is a work of some genius, and could deservedly be called a "masterpiece", but the rest of the album is not remotely in that league, even in terms of the other highlights on the record. People seem to judge the whole album on the basis of one (admittedly great) track.
     
  10. Rose River Bear

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    I suppose some people do judge the album based on that track. If not alone but possibly, it weights the album overall to "masterpiece" for some.
    Of course, this is just a poll thread and nothing more than that. If you are coming to this thread to learn why someone thinks the album (or particular song) is a masterpiece or it is not, you won't learn why here.
     
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  11. Rose River Bear

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    She Makes Me is one of my favorite songs on the album.
     
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  12. 131east23

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  13. 131east23

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    Bo Rhap is not even the best song on this album...
     
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  14. Vaughan

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    Well, there are certain albums that his like a bomb going off - and Night at the Opera did that. It's the same kind of thing you got with The Wall. Everyone had NATO, at least everyone I knew. Bohemian Rhapsody wasn't burned out, and Queen owned the UK at the time. In truth, there's just nothing remotely bad about the album. It feels like a journey, and has a nice mix of things from straight rockers to acoustic numbers. It even feels folky at times. It really was the turning point for Queen.

    Like others, I'd give the edge to Sheer Heart Attack, but there's no doubt that NATO was the big on for them.
     
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  15. Rose River Bear

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    What is the "best" song and why do you think it is the "best" song?
     
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  16. carlwm

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    I've often wondered if they got the idea for the title from Fairport Convention who release Hungarian Rhapsody in 1973. :)
     
  17. carlwm

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    Well, I think it is.

    For me, it's a contender for best single ever. It bowled me over when I first heard it, and still does however many hundreds of listens later.
     
  18. Rose River Bear

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    Good point. I thought about that as well. Of course Freddie was not using the term in a technical way so in that sense the term fits the song well.
     
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  19. mBen989

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    It says something about A Night at the Opera "The Prophet's Song" should be the centerpiece and "Love of My Life" and of course "Bohemian Rhapsody" steal its thunder. Of course where do you go after the latter but play the (British) national anthem?
     
  20. Rose River Bear

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    I think my favorite on the album is Death on Two Legs but I would never say it is the "best" song on the album without coming up with some backup first.
     
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  21. redfloatboat

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    Very good, but not as good as any of their first 3 albums, imo.
     
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  22. carlwm

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    Fair point. :)

    Bohemian Rhadsody hits me in both an emotional and intellectual way like no other Queen song, regardless of album. Indeed very few (relatively, at least) songs have has such an immediate and also lasting effect. I never tire of it. The various moods and intensities it generates in me as a listener are manifold. What a song!

    Why it has this effect, though, is a mystery to me and long may it remain so! :righton:
     
  23. stingraex2000

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    Absolute masterpiece in my book. They don't make em like this anymore.
     
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  24. Rose River Bear

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    A lot of folks think that the song makes references to Freddie on very personal levels including his childhood and sexuality.
     
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  25. carlwm

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    I wouldn't be at all surprised but it also feels universal. Ambiguities leading to layers of meaning, I suppose.
     

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