Queen discography and appreciation thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by dmiller458, Nov 24, 2018.

  1. lwh1

    lwh1 Forum Resident

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    Not a lot to add, I think ShardEnder summed this up very well. According to an old Roger interview, Noone, Macrae and Moss recorded some additional overdubs (in Ibiza) in order for them to get royalties. Peter Noone's brother auditioned as guitarist but lost out to Clayton Moss. There are a few uncredited 'guest stars' on the album including Sam and Vicki Brown (backing vocals), Phil Spalding (bass) and Gary Barnacle (sax). The album title was a favourite expression of Roger's assistant Chris 'Crystal' Taylor (no relation).
    I like most of this album although some parts don't cut it for me, especially the title track which is so lyrically weak and the Queen snippets were pointless when you consider that Taylor's intent was to create a group that was a total separate vehicle from Queen.
    'Love On A Tightrope', 'Heaven For Everyone' (Roger vocal) and 'Feel The Force' being my favourites. Not a bad album, but probably would have been better as a Roger solo release in its original form and/or record an entirely new album with the band.
     
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  2. pantofis

    pantofis Senior Member

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    My take on „Shove It“ is that it was one coke-fuelled studio session where Roger & David Richards let the machines speak. Adding all the flavor of the month bass synths, e-mu samplers and Roger‘s rapping (did he lose a bet or something?) on top. After sobering up, Roger was probably too embarassed to release the results under his own name.
    But really, what do we have here? Utterly brain-dead guitar riffs a la Airheads, fair enough. But those lyrics! Check out Love On A Tightrope for one of the dumbest set of lyrics ever... I imagine the rationale was, if Mötley Crüe can get away with such silliness, so could a new group called The Cross.
    Elsewhere an alarming lapse of taste is displayed: the kitch of Cowboys and Indians, and female backing vocals revving up Stand Up For Love which also reminds me of Yes‘ Almost Like Love.
    In the end someone decided the album had a better chance if it had some Freddie Mercury and Brian May cameos. Oh and fill up the title track with Queen samples, just in case someone thinks this is the Duran Duran Roger Taylor guy...
    Heaven For Everyone at least is one of those ballads like A Kind Of Magic that Roger does so well for some reason, but as noted above, totally misleading as the first single. I also enjoy Feel the Force as a belated tribute to Star Wars, even though that edit/transition after the intro is very badly executed.
    Oh well, the other two albums at least are a lot moe enjoyable (by default).
     
  3. Bobby Morrow

    Bobby Morrow Senior Member

    Found this review of A Kind Of Magic from Smash Hits in July 1986. Considering that it’s both Queen and Smash Hits, it’s not bad.:D

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  4. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Shove It
    We start with that big synthetic drum sound ... we actually aped this sound with an early sampler keyboard, by blowing hard and close into the sampler mic and then playing a high and low range 5 or 6 keys at a time ... we laughed and laughed, we also made a song lol
    Anyway this is somewhat an experimental song, and it is actually pretty well done. Taylor is using several popular techniques here of the time to create this song. This is less melodic than Taylor is normally known for, but that seems to be the point. He has put together an interesting song that starts this album pretty well.


     
  5. pantofis

    pantofis Senior Member

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    I think the drum sound includes the stomps and claps sampled from We Will Rock You.
    Further samples I could detect:
    - Bohemian Rhapsody ("Fantasy", the high "For me", "No!)
    - Bicycle Race ("By...")
    - Fat Bottomed Girls ("Oh")
    - Flash ("Aah", guitar orcshestra trills)

    But from where is that manic Freddie shout "We love"?
     
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  6. michaelvideos

    michaelvideos New Member

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    Not a big fan but I enjoy their Greatest Hits album.
     
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  7. Ludger

    Ludger ISthisALLreal, ISthisALLnecessary, ORisTHISaJOKE?

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    Er - The Cross had a Greatest Hits album?
     
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  8. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    lol
    I'm guessing a general Queen comment :)
     
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  9. Figure of Eight

    Figure of Eight Forum Resident

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    I can't wait until we get to The Miracle and Innuendo, as I love both of those records. Re-listened to Made in Heaven last night and found myself enjoying it a lot.
     
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  10. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    I was surprised how much I liked The Miracle. It had been a long time since I listened to it.
    Innuendo is fairly new to me, but the title track is great, at the very least
     
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  11. Figure of Eight

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    As for A Kind of Magic, while I find it a highly listenable collection of songs, it's one that I rarely feel like listening to in full, and when I do put it on it's pretty much to hear the singles. "Princes of the Universe" is a dazzling composition, though - Mercury seemed to have this ability to cram so much information into so little time and have it sound like he could do it without breaking a sweat. "Bicycle Race" is another one like that - on the surface, it's a frivolous lyric, but musically it's utterly mind-boggling.
     
  12. mark winstanley

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    It certainly is great writing.
     
  13. Figure of Eight

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    The only real problem I have with The Miracle is that they couldn't have chosen a worse track to open the record... after that, I pretty much have no complaints.
     
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  14. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Can't disagree. I don't dislike it, but it isn't a favourite
     
  15. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Cowboys and Indians
    We get a trick intro, that sets a musical tone that gives one impression, and then gives way to a dance type tune. One thing I will say for Taylor is he wasn't afraid to mix it up, and I'll give him full kudos for that.
    This song isn't bad, but it doesn't really appeal to me.

     
  16. mark winstanley

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  17. puelche

    puelche Forum Resident

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    Right. Bill Bruford (King Crimson) comes to mind.
     
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  18. mark winstanley

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  19. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    Apologies guys.
    Power is out again.
    Hopefully i can do something a bit later
     
  20. mark winstanley

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    This isn't bad, but it isn't among Taylor's best work for me. Kudos to him for trying a wide variety of things though.

     
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  21. mark winstanley

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    Heaven For Everyone

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    Single by The Cross
    from the album Shove It
    B-side "Love on a Tightrope", "Contact"
    (12" single only)
    Released 1988
    Format 7" single, 12" single, CD single
    Recorded 1987–1988
    Genre Rock
    Length 5:08
    Label Parlophone
    Songwriter(s) Roger Taylor
    Producer(s) Roger Taylor, David Richards

    "Heaven for Everyone" is a song written by Queen drummer Roger Taylor. It originally appeared in his side project The Cross's album Shove It, with Freddie Mercury as a guest vocalist, and it is the album's fourth track. It was reworked with Queen's music and appeared in the 1995 album Made in Heaven where it was the seventh track, and was released as the first single – four years after Mercury’s death. The song reached number two on the UK Singles Chart.[1]
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    The start of the song reminds me a little of that Sunscreen song for some reason, perhaps it's just the talking.
    We move into a moderate pop song, and I think it works quite well. It's nice to hear Freddie singing on Roger's album, to me, whether it's the case or not, it seems to show a little camaraderie, outside of the confines of Queen.
    The song has a nice feel and is well written. It isn't hard to see it being transformed into a Queen song later.
    The instrumentation is nicely done and at the end of the day, I think this song works well.

     
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  22. Jo B

    Jo B Forum Resident

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    I'd never heard this version and minus the spoken section at the front, which is corny, I rather like it. Overall I find Taylor's work with The Cross a bit boring. We'll likely get to it later, but his more recent work is much better.
     
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  23. mark winstanley

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    Stand Up For Love
    This is an interesting little tune. It starts like an eighties pop song. Then moves into a variation on an eighties moderate rock song, then it sort of moves into a stax/motown kind of soul rave up or something. I'm not exactly overjoyed at the start of it, but it develops into like a cover of a long lost Marvin Gaye song or something, and that's pretty cool.
    Although I am probably not going to race out and buy this album, it shows that Taylor was/is certainly a musical chameleon, and a good writer with nice arranging skills.

     
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  24. Jo B

    Jo B Forum Resident

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    Not a bad 80's song, I rather like it. Isn't it interesting how much (not all) of Queen's work is timeless but Roger & Freddie's solo work is very dated.
     
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  25. mark winstanley

    mark winstanley Certified dinosaur, who likes physical product

    I think they are one of those bands that worked really well as a team and brought out the best in each other.
     

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