Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by xfilian, Oct 11, 2019.
So did I.
Oh right, I got confused as someone was talking about Lullabies bonus tracks earlier...
The original US Ipecac is significantly different. Everything Black Stripes said about it in the post above mirrors my experience with mine. I have 2 US copies, 2 original EU copies, as well as the glow in the dark bootleg. The original EU snd glow in the dark sounds very close to the cd. The original US Brian Gardner cut sounds nothing like the cd. It’s a totally different mastering. It’s not brick wall compressed, has much more presence from the drums, and eq choices are very different. It’s not murky and dense like the cd; it’s sharp and open sounding. I like it a lot. The copies I have are a little noisy, and I bought them both sealed.
Has anyone seen Rated R stocked in shops? Amoeba Hollywood had 30+ copies of SFTD but zero Rated R...
My local shop in Santa Ana, Orange County had 2 copies of Rated R that sold out immediately on Friday.
Thanks for the input. I checked my copy - back then pressings didn't matter that much, one bought what one found in the shop - but I'm glad that I have the original US.
How do the three official pressings of "Lullabies To Paralyze" compare? The original has cool colour and different artwork.
Playing the Songs For The Deaf and revisiting the cd. I made comparisons on Tidal streaming, the cd and the vmp red vinyl version (which according to Chris Bellman is the same mastering as the new mass lp release).
Its kind of a funky recording to begin with. Has a bit of a closed in sound. Reminds me of the typical Soundgarden type recording. Its not a bad sounding recording but Id imagine a difficult one to “open up”.
I think as far as straight up rock n roll guitar sound the lp loses nothing over the original cd nor the Tidal stream. What it does have is a bigger soundstage. Which, imo, makes the nee lp a winner. The drums are rather subdued on all formats. I think its just the way it was recorded. It isnt a Nirvana record with the big Grohl bombastic drums.
Im pleased with this reissue.
I am glad that for this long-waited reissue they choose Pallas. That’s what this album deserves.
Any other opinions on Rated R? I've got the good EU pressing. Looking for a compelling reason to get this one since it's a Bellman cut but also don't want to waste my money.
So those who own more than one vinyl version of Songs For The Deaf don't think this new one is the best? I have the original CD and would love something with more dynamics. If anybody has more comparisons pls let us know!
What is the most deep, dynamic Songs For The Deaf? Thanks in advance fellow heads!
What's the best way to tell which version of Rated X I have?
Just trying to listen to the CD now. The music makes you want to turn it up, but it is just so hard on the ears. Hoping somebody can recommend the best vinyl version for crankability and increased dynamics.
I was referring to this pressing which I own: Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R (X-Rated)
Compare the matrix on your copy. "HL" stands for cutting engineer Heino Leja:
Matrix / Runout (Side A, stamped): B041493-01 A2 HL
Matrix / Runout (Side B, stamped): B041493-01 B3 HL
I have the good Rated X version and to my ears, this reissue crushes it. Vinyl appears high quality, BG in the dead wax should have alleviated any doubt, and I'm thrilled with it. I dont find that its pressed overly quiet on my setup either. Background totally silent.
I have the original European pressing cut by MK at Optimal.. I almost daren't open the can of worms as to where that one might stand! As good as the good? Better than the good? Slightly sub-good?
Actually, I'm playing the HL press now and it also sounds really good. Might have jumped the gun saying the reissue crushes it. Forgot I hadn't spun this since I upgraded my setup. The OP of X/R is the only original queens press I dont have, so I can't speak to comparisons to the MK/Optimal cut.
It's been a long time since I've listened to my copy Rated X closely, but I got curious and checked the matrix numbers. I guess this isn't the good one?
B041493-01 A1 MK
B041493-01 B2 HL
Don’t forget about the original U.K. Ray Staff cut (RAYS etched in the deadwax). That one sounds great and was preferred by many to the MK cut. That cover had the Parental Advisory sticker in the lower left corner and no hype sticker in the upper right.
A GZ Media pressing caused all the fuss about "good" and "bad" because this one must be pretty bad: Queens Of The Stone Age - X
GZ Media repressed it later from a different in-house cut which is rumored to be better than their initial pressing. There is still no Discogs submission for it unfortunately. Read this comment from GZ Media about it: Queens of the Stone Age - Rated X (2nd pressing)
As long as you do not have that bad GZ Media pressing, I would think you have one of the "good" ones. Even more likely if it is an Optimal Media cut with HL involved - as in your case on side B. Your copy is this one: Queens Of The Stone Age - X
This is why I start to disregard comments even on here now, ridiculous...so you haven’t in fact compared both copies on your current setup?
I did now. I still prefer the recent reissue. The HL version is cut louder, but the new reissue sounds a bit more dynamic with greater separation of the vocals and instrumentation on most tracks. But please feel free to disregard my comments. I'm not here for you.
It’s sounds like you made the decision about which one you preferred even before you heard it?
For anyone with an original MK (side A)/HL (side B) pressing (attn: @danner), is side A terribly off-center? My needle sways back and forth a lot, to the point that I can hear speed fluctuations during 'Better Living Through Chemistry' and 'Monsters In the Parasol'. Curious if they're all like this or just mine.
I'm giving my copy a spin now, and side one appears to be fine.
I have this pressing, and no, my one has no issues whatsoever.
I also originally had the 'bad' GZ media reissue, it sounded flat, lifeless, was very low in volume. The difference in sound between the bad GZ and the 2000 MK / HL was night and day.
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