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Question about crystal record weight

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Bogdanstanga, Feb 8, 2021.

  1. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    I recall someone who drilled a hole in 1 or 2 hockey pucks.
     
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  2. MrRom92

    MrRom92 Forum Supermodel

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    I used to put a bowling pin on top of the center label. Much heavier than a measly 400gm!
     
  3. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    Some interesting comments on the crystal weight.
    But no-one has explored the burn-in time. Will the burn-in need to be directional? Will sunlight be a natural burn-in or will it degrade it?

    I suspect that the crystal weight might have better synergy with some records than other.
    For example, this one might work well with it:
    [​IMG]
     
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  4. Bogdanstanga

    Bogdanstanga New Member Thread Starter

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    ummm I didn’t vanish just don’t check the forum every single day lol.
    Also I’m not selling these.
    I just asked because I like the way it looks. My concern is that since they’re made from a glass material and they don’t have a felt bottom they might create undesired resonance.
    Lol paranoid much?!?
     
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  5. Bogdanstanga

    Bogdanstanga New Member Thread Starter

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    New York
    Thank you.
    My turntable recommended a maximum of 450g (1lb) for the weight and the crystal one is 400g, so pretty close to the maximum.
    I do have a friend who wanted a brass weight so I’ll send him your recommendation.
     
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  6. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    You can always buy some adhesive felt to put on the bottom of the crystal weight yourself if you are concerned. There might be some undue vibration if your turntable has excessive vibration/rumble/etc already, but if that's the case you would probably be wanting to get rid of the turntable rather than tweak it.
     
  7. Fishoutofwater

    Fishoutofwater Forum Resident

    Sorry if i was a little offensive, i should not have been so judgemental
     
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  8. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    No offense taken by me. :)
     
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  9. LakeMountain

    LakeMountain Vinyl surfer

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    A cyrstal record weight is likely not reducing reflected vibration energy given it is molecular “crystal” structure. Normally you want (a) material(s) with a more amorphous molecular consistency like copper, aluminum, brass, Acryl or various woods, etc.
    If you like the looks of it you could try putting something like sorbothane feet under it. You never know how something works until you try it, but I would say the chances of improving sonic performance are small.
     
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  10. Bogdanstanga

    Bogdanstanga New Member Thread Starter

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    No worries!
     
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  11. Ripblade

    Ripblade Forum Resident

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    All materials have resonant signatures. A delrin weight will sound very different than one of brass or crystal, simply because they react differently to the vibrations in the record. Just like mats, they all sound different if they are different materials.

    But, there are ppl who think they all sound the same. You must be one of them....
     
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  12. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    Sometimes those beliefs are understandable and - to them - not unfounded. Those people are likely to have systems that are not revealing enough to make those differences noticeable, or some people don't have the ability to discern the differences.
     
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  13. Ripblade

    Ripblade Forum Resident

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    In truth, reality is what one perceives. Try describing colour to one who is colour blind...
     
  14. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    There are people who believe any bs snake oil sellers tell them. You must be one of them.
    Show your listening tests confirming it and Ill believe it.
     
  15. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    Then do it. Show your listening tests confirming it as audible.
     
  16. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    You can prove colors exist to a colorblind person no problem.
     
  17. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    I never said it was audible. My response was to the comment "But, there are ppl who think they all sound the same...", indicating that those people might not be ignorantly dismissing differences that do exist, they may be legitimate opinions based on their actual experience. That some people can't discern a difference doesn't mean that other people may be able to discern subtle differences that exist. And I also propose that people should not be able to detect differences that actually do not exist, however, the expectation bias messes that up!
     
  18. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    Its not about dismissing possibilities. Its about being reasonable.
    Before sufficient evidence is provided the only right stance to have is to not accept the claim.
     
  19. Ripblade

    Ripblade Forum Resident

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    I assure I am just a shrewd a skeptic as you are. That doesn't leave me blind to the possibility that different materials have different sonic properties. Musical instruments are all about this, turntables are likewise influenced by material choices whether we like it or not.
     
  20. The Green Elf

    The Green Elf Well-Known Member

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    I would be very interested to hear how mirror ball record weight would sound after half a bottle of Absinthe.
     
  21. patrickd

    patrickd Forum Resident

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    A weight will play a material role...(I’ll get my coat!)
     
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  22. Leonthepro

    Leonthepro Skeptically Optimistic Autodidact Debater

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    Its not the turntable though, its a weight on the record. I never said its impossible either.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2021 at 12:08 PM
  23. qwerty

    qwerty A resident of the SH_Forums.

    Again, I never supported the claim that the crystal weight would sound different to other weights. I can allow the possibility - however low that might be - that a difference could exist, and that someone with an ultra-high-end system and ultra-sensitive ears could notice a genuine difference. That was the intent of my posts, they were not specific to the weight.
    Personally, I don't think the crystal would make an audible difference, perhaps I should have made that clear in my earlier posts.
     
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  24. doctor fuse

    doctor fuse Forum Resident

    Moi? My [patent pending!] Canucklehead Hockey Puck Clamp?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Spindlebiscuit.
     

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