DCC Archive quick ??? on MFSL "Aluminum" CD's

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Dan, Nov 16, 2001.

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  1. Dan

    Dan Forum Resident Thread Starter

    I think that's what they call the plain silver ones anyway. I saw the Charlie Musselwhite CD the other day, that's why I brought this topic up.

    What was the point behind these vs. the gold CD's?

    I saw the list of titles MFSL produced and I can only recall seeing two or three of these before.

  2. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Wasn't this simply MFSL's first production CDs? Afterwards they got into their Gold CDs. Then Gold UD2's.

    They dropped some silver CDs when they went to Gold. Which is why Barnstorm and I Robot are so expensive on eBay - they are collectors items. Heaven forbid that you *play* them! :eek:
  3. Unknown

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    There is a discography of MFSL aluminum discs at the Gold Ream web site (http://pages.prodigy.net/amicus1/jade.htm). Around 200 titles were released on MFSL aluminum disc starting in 1984. I think the first Ultradiscs came out around 1987 or 1988, and there were probably a few years in which MFSL released both aluminum discs and Ultradiscs. The aluminum discs are pretty rare, and some titles, like I, Robot and Year of the Cat, sell for a small fortune on eBay.
  4. njwiv

    njwiv Forum Resident

    Atlanta, GA
    I know that Levon Helm's 1978 album was never released on gold CD (or any CD other than the MFSL aluminum). I play it often.
  5. christopher

    christopher Forum Neurotic

    gee, my copy of miles' "someday my prince will come" is a MFSL silver disc. i had no idea they were that rare. there are no dates of production or of issue anywhere on the disc to be found.

    hey! i just found a couple more. firesign theatre's "don't crush that dwarf..." (1970) and "i think we're all bozos..." (1971).

    you see, i worked in a tower records ten years ago when these things were still in print or, at least, still available.

    i'll post if i find more...

    later, chris
  6. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Greater Vancouver
    Gary and David hit the nail right on the head. As far as I know there is only one album that was on both the aluminum and gold (UD2) MFSL and that was Rick Wakeman: Journey To The Center Of The Earth [​IMG]
  7. joachim.ritter

    joachim.ritter Senior Member

    There are at least two more titles which were released as MFSL aluminium and later as MFSL gold CD: "Armstrong/Ellington - Together for the First Time/The Great Reunion" and "Joe Cocker - Mad Dogs and Englishmen".

    Unfortunately most of the MFSL aluminium CDs are hard to find, I need some dozen of them to complete my collection!

    Regards, Joachim
  8. Paul C.

    Paul C. Active Member

    I have a couple of those - Quincy Jones' "Smackwater Jack", which I really love - it's a nice remaster, and heaps better than most of his other A&M period albums on CD. Also have "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" - sounds good, although I don't play it much these days - don't know how it compares with the gold version.
  9. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Greater Vancouver
    Thanks Joachim,
    I believe that the two versions of Joe Cocker: Mad Dogs and Englishmen are 2 different versions because the aluminum is a 2 cd set. :D

    [ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: Dave ]
  10. Ian

    Ian Active Member

    Milford, Maine
    Used to have The Grateful Dead's "Mars Hotel" om MFSL aluminium. I remember that the sonics weren't very inspiring on that one. Wish I still had it though.
  11. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Paul, I have the MFSL gold disc AND the silver disc of Journey To The Center Of The Earth.

    Silver disc is much better. Imaging, clarity, stage.... is all much better. It seems like the gold disk (UD2) was punched up a bit which took away some sonic qualitites.

    Stick with the silver!

    As for Grateful Dead's Mars Hotel (MFSL silver), it's not very impressive. Sounds close to a "stock" release although it's the only Mars Hotel version that I have.

    MFSL Mars Hotel silver discs are pretty cheap on eBay right now, if you are interested. Picked up mine for $12.00.

    And the MFSL silver "Journey to..." are going for around $20.00. Cheeeep! :)
  12. Paul C.

    Paul C. Active Member

    Fascinating - I would have thought that the gold "Journey to the Centre of the Earth" would be better, given upgrades to Mofi's systems and what not. But there you go - you can't assume anything in this game. The ears tell the story.

    I love the silver MOFI disc of "Smackwater Jack" -it's a real beauty. In contrast, I have the old standard CD version of Jones' "Gula Matari", which is very muddy indeed, to my ears. The recent remaster of "Walking in Space" (Universal) was a big improvement, although I feel that it's a little bright
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