Rate and Review the songs of The Monkees Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Turk Thrust, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. BobT

    BobT Resident Monkeeman

    Acapulco Sun-Weak album filler, along with the squeals, this one is probably the lowlight of this album. Low 2/5.
     
  2. DaveJ

    DaveJ Senior Member

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    Manchester, UK
    Cheers Fred. A long time ago, maybe back in the early 80’s, I was given an Archies album, which is long gone now but as a result I’ve always thought that Changes had an Archie’s sound / feel.

    It’s cool to see that some people enjoy the album; Monkeedom, like the SH Forums is a broad church!
     
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  3. D-rock

    D-rock Senior Member

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    Acapulco Sun 2/5

    It's ok. Kinda fun.
     
  4. FredV

    FredV Senior Member

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  5. Chip TRG

    Chip TRG Senior Member

    Damn!

    The $500 opening bid was a bit silly, but as far as tape formats go I'm going to guess that's the rarest issue unless a R2R turns up.
     
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  6. intv7

    intv7 Senior Member

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    Boston, MA, USA
    Pretty sure no R2Rs exist for Birds Bees, Present, or Changes. Those Colgems 8-tracks look super cool, but they’re way out of my price range!
     
  7. D-rock

    D-rock Senior Member

    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    I have one for Instant Relay
     
  8. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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  9. JuanTCB

    JuanTCB Senior Member

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    Brooklyn, NY
    Acapulco Sun. Ugh - the worst of the era. But still listenable.

    2/5
     
  10. Acapulco Sun

    When I first listened through the Changes album, Ticket On A Ferry Ride and Acapulco Sun were the two songs on the album I disliked right away ... and since that time I've come to enjoy both. I don't love either of them, but I appreciate them, and I find that they have good elements that make them (for me) worth listening to (that is, I listen to them when I'm listening through the whole album; I don't have either of them on any playlist). I actually like the backing vocals, in a humorous way, and the squealing noises mentioned by others don't bother me—I actually view them as kind of an interesting reminder of the era in which the songs were recorded, knowing that such "tape squeals" aren't even possible in today's digital recording world (unless added deliberately as made-up sound effects). Soooo, 2/5.
     
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  11. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    U.K.
    The ratings for Acapulco Sun:

    1-7
    2-18
    3-5
    4-1
    5-0
     
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  12. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Today’s song is 99 Pounds:



    I guess if Kirshner had remained in place this might have made it onto the group’s third LP.

    I can’t see it as a great loss as I don’t rate either the song or Davy’s strained lead vocal. He was a long way out of his comfort zone here and it shows.

    1/5.
     
  13. RedRoseSpeedway

    RedRoseSpeedway Music Lover

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    Michigan
    2/5 for 99 Pounds. Not great but not terrible either.
     
  14. FredV

    FredV Senior Member

    ‘99 Pounds’ - I didn’t know it was an older song at the time. I really like this song, a good rocker for Davy. He’s using his ‘Valleri’ voice on this, down to his scream. Always liked when Davy tackled rockers. For me one of the better songs on’Changes’. A high 4/5.
     
  15. HitAndRun

    HitAndRun Forum Resident

    Promising guitar and 'waoh' at the start. Unclear production. Lack of Mickey in the backing vocals. Fairly generic song. Good organ solo. Overall a reasonably catchy rock and roll number that needed better production. E.g. that guitar hook needs to be much more prominent. IMHO.

    But, props for Davey not engaging in schmaltz. This is one of his more rocky outings. In fact, so far the Davey songs on Changes - I'm not too familiar with the album - show a greater range of styles for the Davey songs than I expected.

    I'm giving it:

    3/5
     
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  16. FJFP

    FJFP Host for the 'Mixology' Mix Differences Podcast

    3/5 for 99 Pounds. A solidly decent rocker, but I never seek it out on it’s own. I appreciate that it’s in mono!
     
  17. Glass Candy

    Glass Candy Forum Resident

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    4/5. More spirit in this hyper garage throwaway from early 1967 than the whole of the 1970 sessions. It is a flimsy composition, but the performance kicks ass. Hearing Davy in much happier times and vocal form throws a harsh light on the rest of the record.
     
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  18. DaveJ

    DaveJ Senior Member

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    Manchester, UK
    Sounds a little out of place on Changes. I like Davy’s vocal and although it’s not the greatest rock number ever penned, it has more about it than much of the material here.

    99 Pounds - 3/5

    Shame about the backing vocals though. Unlike some people, I am not in the least bit bothered if only one Monkee appears on a track; Headquarters apart, it was how they chose to work but when backing vocal are mixed up front and it is clearly not them, it can jar a bit. Thankfully there’s not many cases.

    And Micky and Mike do sound great together.
     
  19. David Austin

    David Austin Eclectically Coastal

    Location:
    West Sussex
    I really don't like '99 Pounds'. Quite apart from anything else, it sounds more like a rough demo to me rather than a finished track. I suppose Davy's vocal isn't too bad for the most part, but there are a few odd places where he doesn't seem to quite make it. It's also the case, in the context of Changes, that '99 Pounds' sounds jarringly different from the tracks that have preceded it. It was probably a good idea (potentially) to squeeze a rocker in somewhere, but the production on this track (despite being from Jeff Barry, albeit some three years earlier) sticks out as unrefined by comparison. The biggest problem, however, rests with the stupid lyrics. I wouldn't know what 99lb means off the top of my head (I looked it up, it's 7st 1lb or 44.9Kg), but it looks like it means underweight! But then, she is said to be 52", which is 4'4" or 1.32m - so she's child-height. I know the message is that's Sheba small but powerful, but it just sounds daft to me.
     
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  20. HitAndRun

    HitAndRun Forum Resident

    Davy Davy Davy. I don't know why I keep putting an 'e' in. I know how it's spelt!
     
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  21. Laineycrusoe

    Laineycrusoe Forum Resident

    Location:
    Tyne and Wear, UK
    99 Pounds - 4/5
    I like this song. On its own, it's a catchy rocker and it's performed well. On this album, it does stick out quite jarringly but it's like a breath of fresh air to me. It sounds like they put more effort and energy into this admittedly throwaway song compared to the new material on Changes, even though this song was recorded under similar circumstances several years prior (i.e. very quickly with basic production along with a bunch of other songs) and by the same producer. Yes, it does sound out of place, but considering how bland the previous songs have been, I find the addition of this particular song quite welcoming. However, regardless of whether it's on Changes or not, I would still give it the same score either way, although I much prefer the stereo remix from the Headquarters deluxe edition.
     
  22. BigManRestless

    BigManRestless Forum Resident

    Location:
    London
    This obviously doesn't really fit on Changes but it's a decent track.

    4/5
     
  23. intv7

    intv7 Senior Member

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    Boston, MA, USA
    That's the only one I don't have! If you're ever looking to sell...

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  24. intv7

    intv7 Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston, MA, USA
    "99 Pounds" -- 3/5

    I've always liked this song, but I recognize that it's not much to write home about. It's a decent rocker with a ramshackle garage band sound. Its inclusion gives Changes a much needed change of pace.
     
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  25. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    I like that “99 Pounds” is a needed change (heh) from most of the rest of this album (Micky will have a similar change of pace on an older song coming up as well). I like hearing Davy sing rockers, even if his singing on this one isn’t quite up to the task. Had they worked on it a bit more, he’d have gotten it down.

    Solid garage-pop that would’ve made a good release in 1966 or 67. Makes for an odd inclusion in 1970, but itworks well enough to make “99 Pounds” something of a standout on the album (Such as it is).

    Only thing left I have to say is “Only 99 pounds?” Tell that young lady she should eat a cookie or two. 3/5.
     

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