Rate and Review the songs of The Monkees Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Turk Thrust, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. D-rock

    D-rock Senior Member

    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Surprised Wax Minute hasn't received all 5s. What a great song and who else could have sung it with perfect range.

    The version from the Zig Zag concert is pretty amazing with just Nez & Red. The unedited version from that concert is even more entertaining.
     
  2. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    U.K.
    The ratings for Wax Minute:

    1-0
    2-0
    3-1
    4-6
    5-10
     
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  3. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    U.K.
    Today’s song is Bonaparte’s Retreat:



    A rather nice cover of a standard and I prefer this to Glen Campbell’s later hit version.

    Like most songs on this album it is stretched to its maximum possible length, but I think it works quite well in this arrangement. The stretches of semi-noodling lead to the chorus feeling like it has a little bit more energy when it kicks back in.

    3.5/5.
     
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  4. DaveJ

    DaveJ Senior Member

    Location:
    Manchester, UK
    Another song that I enjoy with the volume up. I wish we had more of the stretched out Second National Band but sometimes life is hard. I recall being surprised when I head John Peel play this on his late evening Radio One Show. He said that he really liked it and described it as “psychedelic without drugs”. I don’t know about that although I know what he meant. I wasn't a regular listener and I never caught him playing Papa Nes again. He always had a place in my heart though, even when he “went punk”, as he was very complimentary about The Monkees’ Listen To The Band 45 in his column in Disc & Music Echo.

    Bonaparte’s Retreat - 4/5
     
  5. intv7

    intv7 Senior Member

    Location:
    Boston, MA, USA
    "Bonaparte’s Retreat" -- 3/5

    This is a neat little psychedelic treatment that works well in the context of the album. Never been a favorite of mine, but I enjoy it.
     
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  6. bvb1123

    bvb1123 Rock and Roll Martian

    Location:
    Cincinnati Ohio
    "Bonaparte's Retreat"
    My favorite song on the album. I know it's an older country song but man, Nez really makes it his own, a country-psychedelic masterpiece. My favorite cover song Nez ever did. What else can I say? I really really love this song. 5/5
     
  7. FredV

    FredV Senior Member

    Bonaparte’s Retreat - Another favorite from the 'Tantamount' album. I love how the song starts slowly, almost like the band is just tuning up, and then the first verse kicks in loudly. A great performance by Nez and the band, with Red Rhodes playing a nice solo. We're in Pink Floyd country again. A tune I'd love to hear Nesmith and the FNBR tackle in concert. 5/5.
     
  8. RobRoyF

    RobRoyF Forum Resident

    Location:
    Southland
    Bonaparte's Retreat - 4/5

    One of the highlights for me on this album. It fits in well with most of the other tracks. Nicely done cover.
     
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  9. super sally

    super sally Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mint Hill, NC USA
    Bonaparte's Retreat - 4/5
     
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  10. JJR

    JJR Forum Resident

    Location:
    delaware
    Really enjoy the beginning, building up part as well as the rest of the tune. While most of the arrangements on this LP include some unusual choices, sounds, etc. they work for me even though they are not more traditional on say Nez' first three offerings. Another solid 4 on TTT!
     
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  11. pablo fanques

    pablo fanques Somebody's Bad Handwroter In Memoriam

    Location:
    Poughkeepsie, NY
    5/5 here for Bonaparte. I used to work on a “Great Entertainer” station that played standards from the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s and Kay Starr’s version from 1950 was in regular rotation. Some years later when I finally acquired the Nez albums on CD I got a kick out of hearing his version and it’s always a welcome highlight when listening to TTT
     
  12. pobbard

    pobbard Still buying CDs

    Location:
    Andover, MA
    "Bonaparte's Retreat"

    I like. Not familiar with any other versions, though.

    4/5
     
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  13. Bobby with a dollar

    Bobby with a dollar Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mississippi USA
    "Bonaparte's Retreat" is another 4/5 for me. I guess the reason I gave this one and "Wax" 4's instead of 5's is because 1) the weren't written by Nez and 2) compared to a large portion of the songs on the first 3 albums these just don't quite measure up to a top rating, very, very good songs that miss the coveted "5" by a slim margin (for me anyway)
     
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  14. "R" Ed

    "R" Ed Forum Resident

    Location:
    Mercer County,NJ
    Bonaparte’s Retreat - 4/5

    Love the double track at times with Nez and the Nez back up singers...LOL. I could really see FNB doing this one. Great song
     
  15. Jumping a head I think but does anyone have the McCabe’s live show that 7A put out last year? Curious about how it’s mastered.
     
  16. Grand_Ennui

    Grand_Ennui Forum Resident

    Location:
    WI
    "Bonaparte's Retreat"- 4.5/5
     
  17. JuanTCB

    JuanTCB Senior Member

    Location:
    Brooklyn, NY
    I love this one. It embodies what I like most about the album (stretch waaaaay out and get weird) and the layered harmonies are killer.

    4.5/5
     
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  18. D-rock

    D-rock Senior Member

    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Bonaparte's Retreat 3/5

    Nice vocals by Nez, nice playing by the band .. Just don't care that much for the song. I rarely skip it though.
     
  19. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

    Location:
    Sesame Street
    I think it sounds fantastic, but most of my listening is not on high end gear so I’m not sure that I’m qualified, or even allowed, to comment on it. I consider it a wonderful recording that holds up well. Highly recommended.
     
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  20. FredV

    FredV Senior Member

    It was taken directly off a soundboard recording and slightly edited to eliminate excessive audience chatter. What you’re basically hearing is the show as it was recorded.
     
  21. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

    Location:
    Sesame Street
    Don’t know any other versions, but this is yet another cosmic slice of Nez-icana. The vocals and harmonies are great. Was wavering between 4 and 5, but screw it: 5/5.
     
  22. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    U.K.
    Here is Kay Starr's earlier (and rather different) recording:

     
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  23. FredV

    FredV Senior Member

    Here’s Glen Campbell’s live take.

     
  24. FredV

    FredV Senior Member

    If I may expand on my earlier comments on the song: I listened to a few other versions of 'Bonaparte's Retreat', including the ones by Kay Starr and Glen Campbell, and Michael Nesmith's take on it still astounds me. He takes a fairly well-known Country song, rearranges it with his little touches, and makes the song completely his own.

    That's why it's not wise to dismiss a song Nez covers just because he didn't write it. A good singer will give a good performance of a song. A great artist will take that same song and put his unique signature on it and totally owns it as if he wrote it.

    Not saying anything against the other Monkees who are all talented in different areas, but this is why Nesmith stood out from the rest of the group. When he puts his stamp on a song, doesn't matter if he wrote it or not, it's his.
     
  25. MarkTheShark

    MarkTheShark Senior Member

    I know I read this somewhere -- that after "Do It In The Name Of Love"/"Lady Jane," Screen Gems sent a letter to "Mr. Mickey (sic) Dolenz" informing him that they were releasing him from his contract.
     
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