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Rate and Review the songs of The Monkees Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Turk Thrust, Mar 31, 2019.

  1. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    U.K.
    The ratings for Bells:

    1-0
    2-4
    3-4
    4-1
    5-0
     
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  2. Turk Thrust

    Turk Thrust Forum Resident Thread Starter

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    Today's song is Land o' Pies:



    The uploader of the Youtube video simply states, "this isn't a very good song." :laugh:

    One or two instrumentals on the album I could have dealt with, but there are far too many and several feel like Mike simply exercising in the studio. We are a world away from The Garden here...

    The production is again very dated and there are moments where it reminds me of You're the One That I Want from Grease. Perhaps that's just me.

    2/5.
     
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  4. RobRoyF

    RobRoyF Forum Resident

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    Land o Pies - 2/5
    This sounds like something you might hear while riding a merry go round. More incidental music to me.
     
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  5. intv7

    intv7 Forum Resident

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    "Land o' Pies" -- 1.5/5

    The only thing I really like about this track is its title. Very Nez title.
     
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  6. HitAndRun

    HitAndRun Forum Resident

    Land o' Pies

    This to me sounds like a backing track for a Davy demo. The organ solo is good, but the rest of it not, in my opinion. I suppose a song could have been made out of this. Some verses, a chorus, and a bit of this organ solo, might have worked.

    2.5/5

    Bells

    I'm late to this one, so won't rate it. My opinion of it is not as high as some others. I feel that this is just a chord progression. Maybe it's the sound quality of the YouTube clip as I don't have the album (and don't feel inclined to buy it). But, I simply don't hear much here. Maybe the (fake?) oboe sound has a nice melody. But, I mostly just hear those strings. Not enough to hold my interest. The coda is the best part. And, not just because I'm glad it's over.
     
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  7. FredV

    FredV Forum Resident

    Land O’ Pies - For me this has a cool, funky dance groove to it. The organ player is definitely in the zone. It might benefited with lyrics, but it’s okay. 3/5.
     
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  8. JJR

    JJR Forum Resident

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    While we may be getting to a point of saturation with instrumentals on this CD, but I can’t say this sounds any worse or better than most of the others if listened to individually. Placed earlier in the running order, another instrumental may be suffering it’s fate. Same musicians, same instruments, same sound and this one does have an upbeat groove to it and a cool title, so it stays a 3.
     
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  9. DaveJ

    DaveJ Forum Resident

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    This (Bells) from the guy who wrote the liner notes to Ranch Stash. To me it's awfully close to elevator music. If this wasn't Michael Nesmith and we weren't on a Monkees thread this would pass by totally and without mention. There are strengths to Rays but some of the individual pieces are of little substance to my ears.

    Bells - 2/5


    Not sure why but Land O’ Pies makes me smile. and I'm with Fred on the organ and it's player. (Not literally)

    Land O’ Pies - 3.5 /5
     
  10. D-rock

    D-rock Forum Resident

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    Nez has stated that initially it did have lyrics and vocals but he liked it as a instrument better.
     
  11. D-rock

    D-rock Forum Resident

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    Land 'O Pies 4.5/5

    Just a very happy and pumped tune. Makes my hips start moving. Makes ya wanna dance. Cool tune. Doesn't sound aimless or made up along the way .. as some others do.
     
  12. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    Surprised about the criticisms of “Land O’ Pies.” Along with the opening couple of tracks, this easily one of the strongest pieces on the album. I am sucker for groovy sounding Hammond B3 (Or whatever sort of organ it is), so that’s right in my sweet spot.

    But the whole track is pretty funky, and not necessarily in a forced, “old guy trying to sound hip” way some of the tracks sound (Maybe I’m not the best arbiter on what what’s “funky,” but I dig this). Definitely could use more guitar, and perhaps some fun lyrics to match, but this is pretty good.

    With some good guitar, this could’ve been a cool jam vehicle for Nez and a band. Not bad as it is though. This had serious potential. Solid 4/5.
     
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  13. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    Here’s what “Land O’ Pies” reminds of, just a little. Derek Trucks is one of the best guitarists walking the planet, and this comes from his previous band (Currently, he and his wife lead the incredible Tedeschi Trucks Band).

    Add guitar (In place of the synth horns?) and jam it out a bit more and it’s not far off from this. This is about twice as long as “Pies,” and some may not care for that jamming but I love it. I suspect Nez might too.

    The organ really kicks in and takes over around 2:13, so skip there if you want to hear what I mean.

     
  14. super sally

    super sally Forum Resident

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    I think land o pies is a lot o fun
    4.5/5

    How cool would it be if Micky sang the lyrics over this backing track?

    Any skillful editors out there want to take some isolated peter ssb vocals and drop them in?
     
  15. JuanTCB

    JuanTCB Forum Resident

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    Brooklyn, NY
    It kind of sounds like the theme to Seinfeld or Night Court or something - I can't put my finger on it.

    And I'll be damned if that Bo Diddley-rhythm guitar sitting back in the mix isn't the man himself - it's nice to see how his style remained consistent over the years.

    But it's a pretty fun song - definitley one of his more engaging tracks of the last couple of decades.

    3.5/5
     
  16. JJR

    JJR Forum Resident

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    Liner notes say it is a B3 played by Chester Thompson. Does not specify it is a Hammond but would guess a B3 is a Hammond, although our more musically educated would know for sure.
     
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  17. NudieSuitNezHead

    NudieSuitNezHead No Michael, "teriyaki" is NOT 13 letters...

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    B3 is a model of Hammond organ.
     
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  18. NudieSuitNezHead

    NudieSuitNezHead No Michael, "teriyaki" is NOT 13 letters...

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    I've been out of the loop with other things, so I'll wait until we rate the entire album to give my opinion. Like others have stated, Rays is an album that's best enjoyed as a whole.
     
  19. Bobby with a dollar

    Bobby with a dollar Forum Resident

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    I like "Land O'Pies" quite a bit and believe it should have closed out side 1 instead of "Best Of It". Nez could have found something mellowish in the archives to fill out side 2 IMO. 4.5/5
     
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  20. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    So there is some guitar on there? I thought maybe, but I wasn’t sure I was hearing it. Good to know. A more prominent guitar would’ve made a good track even better. Agreed that it’s one of his better recent efforts, In apite of being a minor track.
     
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  21. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    As NudieSuit mentioned, B3 is a Hammond. I just wasn’t sure what, specifically was played.

    Sounded like a Hammond, as opposed to the sound of a Farfisa or Vox. But I’m not always sure of these things.
     
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  22. NudieSuitNezHead

    NudieSuitNezHead No Michael, "teriyaki" is NOT 13 letters...

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    East Tennessee
    A Farfisa sounds similar to an accordion and a Vox is a bit more "jangly." When I think of a Vox vs a Hammond, I compare it to the sound of a Gretsch 12-string vs a Rickenbacher 12-string. The Gretsch is "janglier."
     
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  23. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    Good descriptions. The Farfisa sounds more, for lack of better descriptions, more circus or calliope-like. “wooly Bully” and “Crocodile Rock” are two songs that come to mind that use Farfisa. But, yeah, like an accordion.

    Both Farfisa and Vox seem to have a thinner sound, to my ears, than Hammond. Not sure I can always distinguish Vox from Farfisa, though I know a Vox was used on some Monkees records. “I’m a Believer” and “Stepping Stone” to name but a couple.
     
  24. Guy Smiley

    Guy Smiley America’s Favorite Game Show Host

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    Wow. He’s played with, among others, Santana and Tower of Power. Nez laded a heavy hitter there. Should’ve used him more on the album.
     
  25. Grand_Ennui

    Grand_Ennui Forum Resident

    Location:
    WI

    I would imagine he drinks his Coff-o-Cupee with his Land o' Pies...
     

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