Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Steve Hoffman, Apr 11, 2013.
Should match the silver 1987-88 Dunhill CD stuff exactly. A clone, in fact.
Ok, good news. Many thanks.
I have a question.
The original ABC-Paramount LP issue of Vol.2 seems to be readily and inexpensively available in Mono.
After the success of Vol.1 I have a feeling they pressed a ton of Vol.2.
What's your view of Vol.1 & Vol.2 Mono vs Stereo?
I think that Volume 2 is indeed out there in mono, I have one and they probably had a bunch left over when, in 1967-68, ABC went "all stereo." However, the pressing run for volume 1 was tremendous and the reason they don't show up as much (in mono) is that they are still in collections.
My view of mono vs. stereo? Bill Putnam AND Capitol (the engineer's name I can't remember right now) recorded everything live in Mono full track, stereo two track AND three-track at the same time, double AA's for each (two machines for each). That's SIX tape recorders going at once. Some were edited, some stored, most destroyed by Ray, sadly.
If I had to choose, the stereo wins each time on these.
OK here's what we do, we take the 3 track and make it LCR, take the stereo and put it in the surrounds, dedicate a sub (I'm sure there is enough audio information for that)
and TA-DAAA!!! We have a weird 5.1!!
I have my mom's old beat up ABC-Paramount and a few CD versions including that complete box-set.
I grew up on Ray Charles and inherited her LP's. He was her absolute favorite.
This will make you laugh, she was born in the 20's and just loved CCR. Weird.
I will look for original issue stereo LP's as those seem to be the most reasonably priced and pretty widely available.
What do you think of the Rhino vinyl reissue?
(dammit hard to concentrate on work)
I don't know about the vinyl reissue. I worked on one of them for Rhino, or two, actually, credited only for one, but that was many years ago.
I'd try and find a mint Bell Sound cut stereo ABC-Paramount original, cut from the actual stereo masters. I found a few that were really nice and cheap. Of course this was the 1990s, but still...
Ain't that the truth? Yet engineers were so quick to abandon tube gear for solid state. Kept the little control room cool with no valves to light up, I guess.
I do have those Rhino Ray Charles "Greatest Hits" compilations on LP.
There are two of those, I have them both and I think you are credited on both of them ...
As far as "Modern Sounds .." goes LET THE SEARCH BEGIN ...
Helpful hint. There were MANY recuts, all from the master but try and find a pressing that has the shiny ABC-Paramount label, should be the best. The later pressings with the not shiny ABC Paramount label (or worse, just the ABC label) were made from older parts but the noise level of the vinyl is much worse. Any pressing before 1967 should be fine.
Thank god my wife is not a member because then she would find out that I am heading to Amoeba at lunch today ... maybe The Record Parlor or Atomic in Burbank tomorrow.
I love this thing that is much more and much deeper than a hobby.
Thanks for the information.
This is something that a trusted on-line seller should be able to get for you.
Nothing in the classified, nothing at Amoeba except those new ones on weird dodgy labels (Waxtime, Dol ...)
Vol.2 on the label some say "Full Color Fidelity" and some say "Full Frequency Stereo" ... these both have the "ABC - Paramount" label.
A question and then we can all get back to our normal lives.
How apparent is the "Shiny label".
I'm guessing you are comparing it to a flat black label.
Thank god for pictures. I'm finding some that are called "original issue" have the "ABC" but no Paramount.
Damn I love these albums.
He not only transcended what would in other cases be thought of as over-produced muzak strings and back up vocals but by juxtaposing that beautifully worn voice against them something unique and sublime was created.
For me right up there with that Betty & Ray album.
Wow, look a fake DCC test pressing of Modern Sounds. We never did that album.
Ray Charles Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music DCC LP Test Pressing »
I saw that ! I think there are two of them.
Sooo, that shiny label?
Very apparent? Shiney? -> RAY CHARLES: MODERN SOUNDS IN COUNTRY AND WESTERN VOL. 2 ~ Original 1962 ABC LP »
We can go train-spotting later ...
Could be real, they just have the title wrong. It's this:
Ray Charles Greatest Country And Western Hits Sealed! Lp Dcc Audiophile #0911 »
That is it but it's trashed..
The search has just begun ... you can save me some time by digging out that extra copy that I know you have somewhere.
Meet you at the Dennys at Gower Gulch ...
I wish I had an extra copy. I'm looking for a nice MONO of Modern Sounds. All of them seem to be well loved (IOW trashed).
That's why I like this site, I noticed a Sequel copy on the 'bay last night and wondered if it was the same mastering, a quick search gives me the exact info I need. £4 later and it's on its way!
I just reread this entire thread. Some great information on it!
Why didn’t you do a DCC gold of Ray’s Crying Time?
I think it was his all-time best ABC recording. Percy Mayfield originals, Billy Preston on organ, Let’s Go Get Stoned, Crying Time - How could you go wrong?
Wanted to. Can't have everything.
Ha! Life is like that...
Ray didn't want to hear of or about that album. A bad memory for him, I think (drug bust related.)
Sadly, as far as I know, there’s never been a legit CD of Crying Time. I know Concord put out a digital version online that wasn’t bad. But it doesn’t compare to the original ABC LP version which I’ve treasured since I picked it up new in a record store bargain bin in the late 1960s.
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