Receiver Recommendation

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by danielkov86, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. danielkov86

    danielkov86 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Atlantic City
    I know these threads are made semi-frequently, but my needs are simple. I'm looking for a new receiver to replace my trusty but aging Sony STRDE185.

    If anyone can help, here are my needs:
    • Must have discrete transformer output amps, no integrated circuits
    • Two channels
    • No phono preamp (I have a Bellari tube pre that I quite love)
    • At least 100 watts per channel
    • Would prefer it to power four speakers
    My budget is under $600. New would be nice, but if there's a great vintage unit that can be had in this budget range I might look into it.

    Honestly, I really like my Sony and may just consider directly replacing it since it meets all my needs to a T. But I'd like to see what commendations I can get from you guys first. Searching Best Buy and Amazon is giving me anxiety. :help:
     
  2. Guildx500

    Guildx500 Forum Resident

    Location:
    California
    Do you use the tuner? Probably more options and bang for buck in the integrated amp category.
     
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  3. head_unit

    head_unit Forum Resident

    Location:
    Los Angeles CA USA
    do you mean TRANSISTOR?
    What do you mean by that? You're running pairs in different rooms? Or you want to control multi-zones independently? Are you doing this at maximum volume for both at once? (In which case are they both 8 ohms? If 4 then you need a 2 ohm amp).
     
  4. SpeedMorris

    SpeedMorris Forum Resident

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  5. danielkov86

    danielkov86 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Atlantic City
    Yeah transistor, I couldn't edit it later when I re-read my post.

    Two sets of speakers run in same room.

    Thanks.
     
  6. BayouTiger

    BayouTiger Forum Resident

    Location:
    New Orleans
    I would take the 80WPC Yamaha R-N602 over the Sony all Day, though I have to admit that I have heard neither of them. Just based on my experience with Sony and Yamaha. I don't consider 80 vs 100W to have any real world difference at all and I actually trust Yamaha's numbers more than Sony's.

    Yamaha R-N602 Network stereo receiver with Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth®, and MusicCast at Crutchfield

    Either way, I would never prefer a receiver over an integrated, but I don't listen to radio at home, and I have just always been an integrated guy. Hell, I am even getting rid of all my separates and going back to all integrateds. (Big sale coming soon to the classifieds! :))
     
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  7. danielkov86

    danielkov86 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Atlantic City
    I do not use the Tuner at all. Does that mean an Integrated or Receiver is better for me? Sorry, I don't understand the difference.
     
  8. Subagent

    Subagent All I know is What I Read in the Liner Notes

    Location:
    Arlington, VA
    You are going to have way (way, way, way) more options if you look at integrated amplifiers. Visit Music Direct, Audio Advisor, Crutchfield, etc. and drill down to integrated amplifiers. You'll find they greatly outnumber the receivers, and that it is easier to find reviews as well as other owners on the forums.

    A receiver is just an integrated with a built-in radio, pretty much.
     
  9. Guildx500

    Guildx500 Forum Resident

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    California
    I would look at integrated amps in your situation.
     
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  10. Gibsonian

    Gibsonian Forum Resident

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    Iowa, USA
    Good receiver is hard to come by these days. I also recommend that you find an integrated. You can always add a tuner. Many more good options for you in the integrated world.
     
  11. Gibsonian

    Gibsonian Forum Resident

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    Iowa, USA
    And if you can go used you can get a much better unit likely with your budget that way
     
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  12. gd0

    gd0 Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies

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    What are your speakers?
     
  13. head_unit

    head_unit Forum Resident

    Location:
    Los Angeles CA USA
    so...what is wrong with it?
     
  14. allied333

    allied333 TUBE AMPLIFIER REBUILDER - inquire

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    MI
    New is over budget, but used is not. Outlaw RP-2160. It will outperform about any receiver available. Even the phono section is good.
     
  15. BruceS

    BruceS El Sirviente del Gato

    Location:
    Reading, MA US
    As much as I like my Cambridge Audio receiver, if/when I replace it, would lean towards an integrated (I had a NAD C372 for quite a while), as I don't use the tuner at all. Integrateds by design do not have tuner sections. I get it about the phono pre-amp—I don't like paying for features I don't need, either. However, phono inputs are ubiquitous now.
     
  16. danielkov86

    danielkov86 Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Location:
    Atlantic City
    Yeah, I didn't even know there was a difference between receiver and integrated amp. Now that I know, looks like IA is the way to go. Thanks for any and all recommendations.

    It's dying. I've had it repaired a couple times, the remote works intermittently, etc.
     
  17. head_unit

    head_unit Forum Resident

    Location:
    Los Angeles CA USA
    It doesn't work like that. If by putting in say a phono preamp, the manufacturer can sell many more, the price can end up CHEAPER. Sales volume is generally a much bigger determinant of price than parts. That's why AVRs are cheaper than integrateds.

    R&D and testing can also cost as much or more as the parts, and ofttimes features can be included into custom chips for basically zero additional parts cost (these latter two points are certainly true for car infotainment systems, less so for analog hi-fi). A poor understanding of these principals, and hanging on to costing ideas from the parts-cost-driven 80s, led to the dwindling of a large behemoth I worked for...
     
  18. BruceS

    BruceS El Sirviente del Gato

    Location:
    Reading, MA US
    Nevertheless, my NAD C372's (integrated) lack of a phono input made space for an additional input that I did use and was happy to pay for. Too bad it didn't have opt/coax in and its own DAC—in which case it would have bopped til it dropped here.
     
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