As many Italian vinyl reach very high prices at on-line auctions, and because around the world there are many passionate collectors of Italian music, it seems only right, since I am Italian, give some informations to avoid throwing money away: in fact it is often very difficult to distinguish from subsequent editions the first pressings, unless you know some details that only those who frequent the collecting world in Italy may know. I will not say absolutely that the Italian sellers are all scammers and pretend Italian reissues for first editions: I'm just saying that often even those who collect Italian vinyl for many years, are unaware of these details that I'm going to list. The first thing to look at when you are about to buy an Italian vinyl, is the SIAE stamp; S.I.A.E. (Società Italiana degli Autori ed Editori) is the Italian institution for the protection of copyright and was founded at the starting of 1970. Therefore the first thing: if the vinyl you are about to buy has the SIAE logo stamped on its label, but for example was first released in 1968, can not be a first Italian press! Before SIAE was founded in 1970, on the Italian vinyl labels could be seen two different logos: BIEM or D.R. The BIEM logo (Bureau International des Sociétés Gérant les Droits d'Enregistrement et de Reproduction Mécanique) can be seen on Italian vinyl labels during the 60s, until the beginning of 1970. The D.R. logo (Diritti Riservati) was used from late 1966 until early 1970 (although very rarely you can also meet it later, in parallel with the logo of the SIAE) So, on Italian labels pressed between late 1966 and early 1970 you can meet either BIEM logo or D.R. logo. Here you can see an example about BIEM and D.R. logos: an image of BIEM logo, from the http://www.beatlesinitaly.it/ website: and an image of the D.R. logo: Then came the S.I.A.E., in the early months of 1970, with its unmistakable brand: at first time only with the word "SIAE" written on the label, then (since about spring 1970) with its circular logo. The word "SIAE" could be (or not) also enclosed by a frame: Beginning in the spring of 1970, we can finally see the round SIAE logo stamped on the label; there are three different kinds of round SIAE stamps. 1) The first kind of SIAE stamp had a diameter of about 12/13 mm, could be in different colors (blue, purple, red, green and orange) and reported the word "SIAE" at the center, and all around the words " Società Italiana degli Autori ed Editori - Roma " all in uppercase. This fist kind was in force from the spring of 1970 to the autumn of 1975. 2) From mid-1975 until the spring of 1979, the SIAE stamp was similar to the previous, but slightly larger in size (about 15 mm in diameter), the word SIAE at the center was identical to the previous stamp, but in some cases had a small star to the left of the letter "S". In addition, the letter "S" in the word "Società" is reversed, and the letter "A" in the word "Autori" is in lowercase. 3) Finally, in the fall of 1978 until 1996 does appear the third type of SIAE stamp, with the same characteristics of the second one, but the word SIAE has thicker letters and does not occupy the entire middle of the circle, leaving a space below that often does contain a number. In the image below you can see a reconstruction, made by a software, of the three different types (from left to right) of SIAE stamps: this is an artwork made by the friend Augusto Croce, who is surely the leading expert in the world, and big collector himself, about Italian progressive albums: http://www.italianprog.com/ Thanks, Augusto!! Now, it's very important to note some things; the stamps of the first and second type also appear in parallel, from about the middle of 1975 until the autumn of the same year: regarding albums released in that period, can be found or the one or the other type of stamp: the transition from a stamp to another has not occurred within a day. For the same reason, the stamps of the second and third type appear in parallel from the autumn of 1978 until the spring of 1979. In 1996, the use of the stamps did stop and replaced with stickers. Now: why SIAE stamps are so important for collectors? Well: if you have for example an Italian copy of "Per un amico" with the 3rd kind SIAE stamp, you surely have a reissue from the 1978 or later; even if the catalog number and even if the matrix numbers are identical, doing a careful comparison with a copy that has the first kind of SIAE stamp (the correct one, for this album) you can surely notice some differences between the two different copies. That is why it is so important that collectors, before spending several hundred Euros, are aware of the different types of SIAE stamps. There are really very few cases in which two albums perfectly identical in every detail, have two types of different SIAE stamps: this could happen because, as we all know, the same mothers and the same stampers could also be used at a later date for pressing different issues, if they were not completely worn out. As a matter of fairness, I must point out that this very complex research required many years of study and comparison of thousands of vinyl; here are the names of those who participated over the years, in alphabetical order: Augusto Croce (http://www.italianprog.com/) Maurizio Fulvi Nino Gatti Roberto Mento (http://www.rockbottom.it/modx/) Paolo Montevecchi Augusto Rossi Stefano Tarquini (one of the biggest Pink Floyd expert and collector in the world: http://digilander.libero.it/mrpinky/ ) ...and I ! Hoping this thread will be helpful to someone. Bye!!