'Red Dawn' (1984): Colonel Ernesto Bella's Pacifist Turn

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by S. P. Honeybunch, May 21, 2023.

  1. S. P. Honeybunch

    S. P. Honeybunch Presidente de Kokomo, Endless Mikelovemoney Thread Starter

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    Unintelligible Stallone is sublime Stallone. If he's waxing poetic unintelligibly about Adrian or Vietnam, you know you're getting your money's worth.
     
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  2. Johnny66

    Johnny66 Laird of Boleskine

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    No specific scene functions in isolation from a broader film overall, and it's highly debatable whether Colonel Ernesto's 'pacifist turn' (?) "brings a peaceful ending" to the film (as the opening post suggests). I mean, God forbid one involve 'political thoughts and theories' when discussing Red Dawn, of all things...

    o_O
     
  3. Karnak

    Karnak "81, 82, 83, 84..."

    Yes, the music definitely adds to the scenes I noted as well.
     
  4. Potato
     
  5. Johnny66

    Johnny66 Laird of Boleskine

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    I say картофель.
     
  6. ledzepfan63

    ledzepfan63 Forum Resident

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    it was on this weekend on amc
     
  7. S. P. Honeybunch

    S. P. Honeybunch Presidente de Kokomo, Endless Mikelovemoney Thread Starter

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    All class and quality on AMC.
     
  8. ledzepfan63

    ledzepfan63 Forum Resident

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    it,s better than nothing
     
  9. ssmith3046

    ssmith3046 Forum Resident

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    I always seeing Las Vegas, New Mexico and surrounding areas.
     
  10. S. P. Honeybunch

    S. P. Honeybunch Presidente de Kokomo, Endless Mikelovemoney Thread Starter

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    Disagree with Ebert's take that the Wolverines had too easy of a time beating the occupiers. They actually hid from the better armed sightseeing Russian soldiers and only fought them when Toni slipped and made noise. Killing them is how they get some of their better armaments at first. Also, the occupiers kill a handful of the Wolverines. It's not like they make it through the movie unscathed.
     
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  11. Bruce Racket

    Bruce Racket Forum Resident

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    I agree with you, I don't think Roger Ebert has a clue about it.
    I think we can look to Afghanistan to see a real world example of how easy it is for an insurgency to beat occupiers. Both the Soviet Union and the USA lost there after decades of armed occupation, deployment of cutting edge defense technologies, billions of dollars spent and countless lives lost. And both counties and their allies achieved nothing there.
    The characters in Red Dawn were in the perfect location to resist and their childhood growing up there "trained" them in the skills needed to resist.
     
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