Rega Neo Turntable PSU

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Graham Morrissey, May 14, 2019.

  1. Graham Morrissey

    Graham Morrissey Forum Resident Thread Starter

    The power supply for my Rega RP3 developed a hum, which seemed to be getting worse, so I had to replace it. Upgrading to a PSU seemed sensible, if only because it would let me change speeds at the touch of a button. I bought one. It arrived yesterday, and I am just completely blown away... It seems a staggering improvement. I could hear extra instruments backing Kate Bush in The Kick Inside and everything suddenly seemed in time in New Order's Temptation 12".

    Therefore I have two questions:
    What's going on? Does anybody know why this upgrade could make such a difference.
    What could I do next to upgrade? Currently Rega RP3/Elys 2 going into a Rega Fono MM MK3 Phono Stage with the cable that came with the turntable.
     
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  2. Erocka2000

    Erocka2000 Forum Resident

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    If you don't already have the Groovetracer Reference Subplatter, I'd say that will also make a significant improvement. Other than that, I'd not mod the table any further. Down the road an MC cartridge with appropriate phono stage would be my goal.
     
  3. vinylontubes

    vinylontubes Forum Resident

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    I don't know that need to spend as much as a Groovetracer subplatter, there are much cheaper options like the Tango Spinner. I purchased a Deepgroove subplatter off eBay, and it made a huge difference. I bought it with a 20% off coupon, but even at $108, it worth it. I have a P5, which didn't come with the TTPSU stock. I purchased it afterwards. The subplatter upgrade is a much bigger improvement than the power supply.
     
  4. swvahokie

    swvahokie Forum Resident

    Agree with the subplatter upgrade, the Tango Spinner will be fine. Since you already have the Rega mm Fono, how about an Exact.

    The Neo is a sweet piece, it uses dsp to generate a 24 volt sine wave for the motor. It was based on the RP10 power supply and is not simply an upgrade of the old one.

    Don’t go crazy on upgrades to an RP3. You could end up sinking more into upgrades than it would cost to just upgrade to a P6. If the rest of your system is up to snuff, there is a huge difference between the 3 and the current P6. I know, I had the current P3 for over a year before trading it for the P6. The trick part on the P6 is the Tancast 8 plinth. Only way to get one of those is to buy a P6 or P8
     
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  5. Kristofferabild

    Kristofferabild Well-Known Member

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    I am also thinking about upgrading to this. Are you still satisfied with it?
    Also what other improvements did you experience? =)
     
  6. Greg Carrier

    Greg Carrier Forum Resident

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    A subplatter upgrade made a huge difference on my P1. It opened my eyes; I never would have thought it could improve the sound so much. It's a Groovetracer; I don't know how the Tango Spinner compares, but there are enough good comments about it that I would be confident. Now you've got me thinking about a PSU.
     
  7. Fishoutofwater

    Fishoutofwater Forum Resident

    I use a heed orbit PSU with my P3 and it made a huge difference for the good. To the OPO, get rid of that horrible cart. It nearly drove me to giving up on LPs. Many on this forum will agree. I changed the sub platter which also helped but not as much as the PSU. Have fun.
     
  8. Kristofferabild

    Kristofferabild Well-Known Member

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    I upgraded from a Denon DL110 to a Rega Exact and couldn't be happier.
     
  9. Joseph.McClure

    Joseph.McClure Forum Resident

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    I'm not positive but I don't think a PSU can be used with an RP1 or P1.
     
  10. Greg Carrier

    Greg Carrier Forum Resident

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    Thanks, I'll check that out. (And btw, mine is an RP1, not a P1, as I said before.)
     
  11. Dhreview16

    Dhreview16 Forum Resident

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    Pause. Stop. Reflect. There are two ways to go. Upgrade the Planar 3 as suggested. Or trade it in now for the RP6 (or 8).
    Several members think the latter route is the better one of the two. Maybe a better longer term solution.
     
  12. Joseph.McClure

    Joseph.McClure Forum Resident

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    Mine is an RP1 as well.
     
  13. Randoms

    Randoms Aerie Faerie Nonsense

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    The improved power supply created a purer sine wave, the motor vibrates less. Unwanted vibration in the platter basically means you lose vital musical information - you are retrieving more music from you records: suprising and amazing, isn't it?

    The musical improvements you are hearing doesn't suprise me in the least. My favourite upgrade for the Linn LP12 is the Linn Lingo, a turntable power supply: it gives improvements that no arm, or cartridge can ever bring. The Neo is doing the same for your Rega.
     
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  14. Davey

    Davey very clever with maracas

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    Agreed, that's certainly a part of it, the original TT-PSU is rated at 2.4% distortion on the 24VAC output, while the NEO is rated at 0.1%, according to specs listed at Rega
     
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  15. Kristofferabild

    Kristofferabild Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered one :winkgrin:
     
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  16. Randoms

    Randoms Aerie Faerie Nonsense

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    Let us know what your impressions are.
     
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  17. Mintsauce

    Mintsauce Forum Resident

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    Yes, please do as I’m tempted to upgrade the one on my RP8 if it’s deemed worth it.
     
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  18. Graham Morrissey

    Graham Morrissey Forum Resident Thread Starter

    Thanks to all who replied and good luck to Kristofferabild. I almost thought I was being a bit irrational, but 2.4% to 0.1% and a purer sine wave makes some sense. It still sounds great.
     
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  19. cut-out

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  20. Mintsauce

    Mintsauce Forum Resident

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    I had that issue when I first got my RP8, it’s not obvious when the connector is correctly seated. No issues since I worked it out.
     
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  21. Randoms

    Randoms Aerie Faerie Nonsense

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    I've been sold on improved turntable power supplies since 1990 with the Lingo for the Linn LP12. In simple terms, I believed the LP12 with Lingo and Linn's cheapest arm and cartridge clearly outperformed their top arm and cartridge on a LP12 with Valhalla, an already good turntable power supply.

    I tried a Moth Flutter Buster on a Rega Planar 2 back in the early nineties, but the Neo is in a different performance league.

    The price of a Neo and new 24v motor imo is cheap for much improved sound and compared to what people are prepared to spend on a cartridge, a bargain. A friend went from TT PSU to Neo on his RP6 and was absolutely delighted. Improvements in every area and no negatives. Singers sound like better singers, musicians like they've taken lessons and bands / orchestras, tighter. Obviously the Hi-Fi things improve too, but the music!

    33/45 at a touch of the button, and at long last a Rega running slightly fast can be resolved!

    As a turntable power supply isn't glamourous like an expensive cartridge, or new speakers, I'm intrigued if people go for it, and if they do, hear what my friend and I heard a couple of months ago on his RP6 and what enthralled me and many, many more with the Lingo all those years ago.

    Edit. See also Rega Neo TTPSU
     
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