Rock and Roll Hall Fame Class of 2020 is...

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by ModernDayWarrior, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group

    That’s largely why the current Chairman, John Sykes, is trying to push the Hall towards later eras.

    Me, I understand and even support moving the Hall forward, it needs to in order to survive. I also support diversifying the nominating and voting committees, which can help broaden the scope. It also concerns me, since there are key artists still awaiting recognition (not to mention that a few of the groups I’m trying to bring recognition for are pre-70s).

    A lot of Hall Watchers have suggested a Veteran’s Committee, and honestly, I think the idea is at least worth considering.
  2. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    Exile might deserve Country HOF but not Rock HOF.

    Their presence on the pop charts was minimal: one real hit single and that's all. One album that hit the top 20.

    Lotsa success on country charts, though...
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  3. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits and Abbie: Best Dogs Ever

    Alexandria VA
    Because the Rock Hall needs more barely remembered acts from the 50s/60s? :wtf:

    There are a small # of non-inducted 50s/60s acts with credible claims, but I think they've already scraped most of that barrel clean.

    I don't think a "veterans committee" is gonna get the Monkees in there! :shrug:
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  4. JakeKlas

    JakeKlas Impatiently waiting for an 8-track revival

    United States
    I find myself feeling less angst when thinking about the Songwriters Hall of Fame.

    There’s something to be said for an inclusive title (Songwriters) that automatically opens you to any genre, versus “Rock & Roll” which has become the subject of endless frustration when trying to define what any given person feels “Rock & Roll” means.

    I wonder what artists would say, given a choice... “Would you rather be inducted into the RRHOF, or the Songwriters Hall of Fame?”
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  5. Zoot Marimba

    Zoot Marimba And I’m The Critic Of The Group

    And again, “Rock And Roll” and “Rock” aren’t necessarily the same thing.

    I will say, no, an artist’s impact is not diminished for the wait. But I will say this: artists should be able to live to see their induction and enjoy it. Going back to the groups I’m trying to get recognized, all the Belmonts were still alive in 1989 when Dion was inducted; now, only one remains, and he’s turning 80 this year. 1995, all the Mothers and all of Big Brother were alive when Zappa and Janis were inducted, and now half of both bands are dead, with at least four members between both in their eighties now (two approaching 90). Can you understand why I’m trying hard now? Or why others are for other acts? Going back to the Monkees. I’m not a mega fan by any means, and it would one thing if Davy or Peter died before or right as the Monkees became eligible. But exactly twenty years passed prior to Davy’s death. Come on.
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  6. Ty D. Tatman

    Ty D. Tatman Forum Resident

    I didn't think Dio had a legit case until Deep Purple put Coverdale in. Then I really started hating Sharon Osbourne even more for vetoing any chance of Black Sabbath putting Dio in with them...
  7. Greenalishi

    Greenalishi Forum Resident

    San Francisco

    Totally a true History. Goin back.

    Eventually it'll all be in there. With time.

    Right now its a popularity contest of this moments hot thing. Abba Bon Jovi both examples. But more a readers digest entertainment tonight people mag Jann Weiner perspective and how roll stone is run. Trending now. Which inthe next minute becomes history which kind of fits because rock and roll is and was a trend in music so maybe perfect but of course music is subjective and we all have our favorites and the stuff we hate eventually it'll all go in and just be history
  8. Mirrorblade.1

    Mirrorblade.1 Forum Resident

    At this point in time. Nobody cares about music acts from the 50's and early 60's
    except well known that have been already inducted..
    What it seems there running out viable inductees..
    Maybe it should close down.. as most people consider the whole thing a joke.
  9. WLL

    WLL Popery Of Mopery

    ...They only had one particular pop hit. Country hits, yes.
  10. readr

    readr Forum Resident

    I ready for some of the incredible 90’s acts...
    Stone Temple Pilots
    Alice In Chains
    Foo Fighters
    Smashing Pumpkins
  11. drift61603

    drift61603 Forum Resident

    Peoria, IL
  12. Seabass

    Seabass Old Git

    Devon, England
    If I was in a band that was considered for the HoF I’d tell them to bugger off.
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  13. WLL

    WLL Popery Of Mopery

    ...I liked seeing that brought up about the " rock'roll "/" rock " split.
    I would personally like (for his 50s/60s material) Neil Sedaka indicted.
  14. I'd like to see him indicted too. And hopefully he'd get the book thrown at him.
  15. Crawdad

    Crawdad Detroit Rock Citizen

    Ya, I Kihn dig it. They don't write'm like that anymore.:righton:
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  16. WLL

    WLL Popery Of Mopery

    ...Ha ha. I either made a mistake, of the Autocorrect did. " Inducted ". That's what I meant.
  17. Crawdad

    Crawdad Detroit Rock Citizen

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  18. Stephen Grayce

    Stephen Grayce Well-Known Member

    Orlando, FL
    It hasn't been that relevant to begin with. It seemed for a very long time that the final criteria for entry was that publisher Jann Wenner liked them, and still does to some extent.
  19. Tyler Mills

    Tyler Mills Well-Known Member

    It just sounds like you simply hate technically amazing/proficient and "pretty/decorative" singing. Unfortunate, but ah, well. Different strokes.
  20. BroJB

    BroJB Hey man, is that FREEDOM ROCK?

    To me, it's technical skill with no soul. She has great chops, no doubt. But I rarely have heard her use those chops to serve a song. Rather, it's to bring attention to her technical skill.

    Range isn't what makes a singer great, it's using whatever range you have to deliver real emotion and having a musician's sense of phrasing to pull everything together. Billie Holiday probably had a quarter of Mariah's range, but has left a far more indelible mark.

    (As for me not liking "amazing/proficient and 'pretty/decorative' signing", I got a shelf full of Aretha Franklin and Dusty Springfield that says otherwise. :))

    But that's just my subjective opinion, and I certainly leave room for folks who enjoy the thrill of a big, expansive voice.

    My bigger issue, when I think of her, is with the style of singing she birthed - the "American Idol" type of singer who's all about swooping through octaves and creating vocal "moments" that are supposed to generate an "Oh my god, what a voice!" response. That's not her fault. A lot of great artists end up unleashing a wave of crap imitators (Nirvana being a prime example).

    But, like I said, follow your bliss. She's super-talented and I have no beef with anyone who loves her. Just not my thing.
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  21. LilacTeardrop

    LilacTeardrop "Roll It Over, My Soul...and Leave Me Here"

    Airing on HBO & HBO Max November 7th 8:00 PM. Depeche Mode looks to be the only highlight of this year's event I'm interested in - maybe Nine Inch Nails a little, too, but D.M. I remember voting for 2 or 3 (?) years ago when votes were open to public (received in an e-mail) & they didn't get in that time-I think it was first year eligible. I'm imagining it will be via zoom (or whichever that type service) links/connections (as other awards' events have been), but I don't see such information listed. Some venues have been opening up for bands to perform live-stream gigs, sans audience, so perhaps some performances will be done so. Maybe some of you will get more info. from the trailer, as mine was doing a lot of buffering.
    Trailer w/info. link, below:
    Class of 2020 Inductees | Rock & Roll Hall of Fame
    Last edited: Oct 26, 2020 at 9:16 AM
  22. Crawdad

    Crawdad Detroit Rock Citizen

    Does anyone know when the 2021 nominations are coming out?
  23. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Forum Resident

    Who from DM is in LA and who's in UK right now? Best hope is full band like the Rolling Stones zoom thing from different countries. Is Gore/Gahan are both in LA maybe they can do a quasi acoustic duo thing.
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  24. Dreaddazzman

    Dreaddazzman Forum Resident

    Based on the trailer, I get the impression that everything is being professionally pre-recorded. So using an live service like Zoom, etc. seems unlikely. Couldn't get a sense from the trailer if any performances will take place. I'm getting the vibe that the show will mostly consist of the same type of clips packages they typically would have shown before the person selected to induct each band/person would come out when they were able to do the show in person (maybe the clips will be a bit longer given the format).

    And the trailer from the Rock Hall site does buffer a lot, just have to let it load for a while before you start watching.
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  25. Gaslight

    Gaslight ⎧⚍⎫⚑

    Northeast USA
    Same question.

    My pent up outrage needs an outlet
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