Roland's favorite CD versions of Queen albums

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by rjstauber, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. Barry Vaughan

    Barry Vaughan Active Member

    Location:
    Edinburgh
    I have the chance to replace my 1994 remaster of Queen I with an earlier EMI pressing. Could someone post the EAC peaks of an early EMI pressing, so I can check that my Parlophone is (or isn't) different?

    These are the peaks for my Parlophone pressing:

    Queen
    Parlophone, Made In Holland
    0777 7 89276 2 4

    92.6/95.5/89.6/95.4/80.4/85.5/86.7/86.5/90.5/74.2

    I'm looking for the EAC peaks of a Sonopress or Swindon EMI pressing.
     
  2. dbz

    dbz Bolinhead.

    Location:
    Live At Leeds (UK)
    Barry,
    I don't have the UK/Germany version handy (if no one posts them today, I'll do them later this evening), but I did run the CP32 Japan pressing..which interestingly shows different values. I say interestingly, because it's been said that this is the same as the UK/Germany pressing IIRC . Ooops hang on a sec, The version you are looking at is the Remastered version as it has catalogue 077778927624 (see below)

    Track 1 Peak level 99.3 %

    Track 2 Peak level 100.0 %

    Track 3 Peak level 90.6 %

    Track 4 Peak level 87.9 %

    Track 5 Peak level 97.8 %

    Track 6 Peak level 100.0 %

    Track 7 Peak level 70.1 %

    Track 8 Peak level 79.4 %

    Track 9 Peak level 89.3 %

    Track 10 Peak level 70.5 %

    All tracks accurately ripped

    No errors occurred

    End of status report

    CDs
    1973 version
    United Kingdom Queen CD EMI CDP 7 46204 2
    United Kingdom Queen CD EMI UK-CD-FA 3040 CDP 7 46204 2 Fame reissue
    United Kingdom Queen CD Parlophone CDPCSD 139 remaster
    Netherlands Queen CD EMI CDP 7 46204 2 -
    Netherlands Queen CD Parlophone 0777 7 89276 2 4 remaster
    Hungary Queen CD VTCD RCD1040 red disc with silver Freddie, different track order
    Hungary Queen CD Euroton EUCD-0011 different sleeve
    United States Queen CD Hollywood HR-61064-2 long box
    Japan Queen CD Toshiba-EMI TOCP-6651 -
    Japan Queen CD Toshiba-EMI TOCP-8271 remaster
    Japan Queen CD Toshiba-EMI TOCP-65101 card sleeve, with insert
     
  3. Barry Vaughan

    Barry Vaughan Active Member

    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Yep, that was my recollection too - same mastering with a volume boost??

    Thanks for posting these though, they are clearly different masterings. So now we need to see if the UK/Germany matches either of the above.
     
  4. dbz

    dbz Bolinhead.

    Location:
    Live At Leeds (UK)
    I'm sure that I found them to be the same. Roland and I swapped a few different EAC logs for Q & QII. They will be different to that Holland pressing of course, because that's the remastered version.
     
  5. Barry Vaughan

    Barry Vaughan Active Member

    Location:
    Edinburgh
    Just to confirm, I now have the Sonopress EMI version CDP 7462042 of Queen I. EAC peak values exactly match the CP32 Japan pressing. Thanks for your help!
     
  6. McLover

    McLover Senior Member

    I have a Korean Redface EMI "Greatest Hits". A friend has the Japanese Redface EMI of the same CD. We compared both at my house. Both identical sounding. My Korean pressing was pressed by Samsung.
     
  7. dbz

    dbz Bolinhead.

    Location:
    Live At Leeds (UK)
    :righton:you're welcome,enjoy!
     
  8. ted209

    ted209 Forum Resident

    Location:
    East Sussex, UK.
    The Works channel reversal

    Thanks so much for a great topic - it's posts like these which save hours and hours of searching the forums for all the golden nuggets of info! :edthumbs:

    I have the unremastered EMI CDP 7 46016 2 (EMI SWINDON) version of "The Works" and I noticed that the first 4 tracks are stereo channel reversed compared to the 1994 remaster. Track 1 (Radio Gaga) is the same on Greatest Hits II as on the remaster, so I assume this was a mastering error on the original CD.

    Has anyone else noticed this? Any chance someone could check with vinyl which one is correct?
     
  9. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    I recently compared the MFSL News Of The World CD to the UK EMI CD and I had a huge preference for the EMI. I guess it all depends if you like your music with or without midrange. :) The EMI is a very nice sounding disc but the MoFi is tweaked. Lots of EQ on that one.
     
  10. George P

    George P Notable Member

    Location:
    NYC
    :agree:

    The CP32 is even better than the UK. It's a little clearer, with a bit less noise. I've really grown to love this album.
     
  11. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

    Location:
    Nashville
    So it's from a different source?

    Darn it! Now I have to track that one down. :)
     
  12. George P

    George P Notable Member

    Location:
    NYC
    I don't think the source is different, it sounds similar. Same EQ, level, etc. Just clearer and cleaner. Less noise. Chalk it up to pressing/plant differences, I guess.
     
  13. ted209

    ted209 Forum Resident

    Location:
    East Sussex, UK.
    I had the chance to compare all 3: MFSL, EMI and the CP32 a few weeks ago - I can only agree. I much prefer the EMI and CP32 versions to the MFSL (which is mastered very loud!). The EMI and CP32 sound very similar, but the dynamic range is better on the CP32, particularly on Spread Your Wings.
     
  14. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    I am planning a big Queen European EMI CDs sale in the classifieds for next week, but the thing is I have a couple of "Parlophone" 1992 pressings. For Queen I and Queen II to be precise.

    Now I've read that in fact the Parlophone CD for Queen I is exactly the same as the previous EMI version i.e. with no Noise Reduction applied.

    If someone would be kind enough to check that, I'd like to know what is the total time that appears in your CD player counter when you pop your original EMI Queen I CD. Mine reads 38:49.

    As for Queen II, I have already checked, the original EMI is 40:36, whereas the 1992 Parlophone is 40:50 and is definitely NRed. :sigh:
     
  15. Maidenpriest

    Maidenpriest Setting the controls for the heart of the sun :)

    Location:
    Europe
    According to EAC my original EMI CDP 7 46204 2, matrix B-5884 total time is 38:48:70
     
  16. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    Great! :righton: Thanks maidenpriest!

    Looks like the masterings are identical then. I think I can make out faint hiss at the beginning of the first track, when the guitar kicks in. It doesn't seem NRed.
     
  17. George P

    George P Notable Member

    Location:
    NYC
    Mine too. :righton:
     
  18. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    Would it be safe to assume that ALL European CD version of Queen I (issued before the 1993 Remasters) are identical and don't use NR?
     
  19. darkmatter

    darkmatter Gort Astronomer Staff

    Steadily building my collection of early Queen, excellent thread :)
     
  20. Wallace

    Wallace Forum Resident

    Location:
    Holland
    Early Queen? Ahhh...yeah! Queen II does it for me really! The song White Queen is one of their finest songs.
     
  21. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member

    Location:
    Oslo, Norway
    I did a little shoot-out between the original EMI CD and my original UK vinyl copy yesterday. The LP has matrix YAX 4881-4U/YAX 4882-4U and also TML-M on side 1.

    There is a lot more tape hiss apparent on the CD than on the vinyl. Overall the vinyl sounds better on all aspects. Better low end, better body and it is more detailed. To me it sounds like the CD is mastered from a higher generation source. In this case I find the LP to be superior on all aspects.

    Comparing the EQ between the two using samples from “killer Queen” this is how you must EQ the vinyl to get similar tonality to the CD. As you see there is quite a bit more top end on the CD than on the LP.
     

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  22. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member

    Location:
    Oslo, Norway
    Previous post is about Sheer Heart Attack.
     
  23. All non-remasters of Queen I are free of noise reduction.
     
  24. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member

    Location:
    Oslo, Norway
    Sorry but it's the other way around. It is the vinyl that has more top end. The graph shows how you must EQ the CD to have a similar EQ to the vinyl.
     
  25. Plan9

    Plan9 Mastering Engineer

    Location:
    Toulouse, France
    I thought Queen I in its 1992 Parlophone version was the same as the earlier EMI, but peaks show the contrary:

    97.0 %
    97.7 %
    88.6 %
    85.9 %
    95.6 %
    97.7 %
    68.5 %
    77.6 %
    87.3 %
    68.9 %

    It is also different from the CP32 and the 1993 Digital Remaster.
    Anyone's interested in the 1st minute of the 1st track for comparational purposes? :)
     

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