Room Treatment Products from UA Acoustics?

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  1. Helom

    Helom I'll take the monkey coffins Thread Starter

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  2. Encore

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    This page seems to have some conflicting information about whether you can return items or not: Shipping & Returns
     
  3. Optimize

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    Nice to see the graphs for the difference thickness. They look most effective between 400 Hz to 1.25 kHz .
    Great if you have measured that there where the peeks are in the room. Or maybe only to treat the first reflections points.
     
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  4. Helom

    Helom I'll take the monkey coffins Thread Starter

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    Yeah, 30 day satisfaction guarantee but they ask you return the products "immediately upon receipt." I think they meant for that stipulation to apply to damaged pieces.
     
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  5. Hipper

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    My experience with foam is that it is nowhere near as effective as mineral wool etc. used in the products by the likes of GIK, certainly as far as bass traps are concerned.

    The prices are cheap but there's no info on postage costs.

    I'd rather stick to tried and trusted brands.
     
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  6. Helom

    Helom I'll take the monkey coffins Thread Starter

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    The prices through Amazon are also fairly cheap.
     
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  7. Rolltide

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    Something to keep in mind is while fancy diffusers might be made of different material, for standard cloth covered acoustic panels, it’s all the same OC703 underneath. GIK doesn’t cover OC703 with cloth better then their competition.

    I’ve gotten all my acoustic panels from ATS acoustics on Amazon and suggest checking them out.
     
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  8. Kyhl

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    GIK doesn't just use OC703. They use Roxul and other stuff too. Depends on the trap.
     
  9. Rolltide

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    Like I said, every acoustic product isn’t made of OC703. GIK’s standard non-diffuser cloth covered acoustic panels are what I’m saying is the same as everybody else’s.
     
  10. Mike-48

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    I agree that foam is best avoided in acoustic products, in favor of fiberglass or mineral wool. Foam is less effective and also deteriorates after a few years.
     
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  11. Larry I

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    My primary concern with products like this is the use of acoustic foam. The foam will, in time, harden, crumble and turn to dust. I've had foam that ended up this way. It may take ten years or more for that to happen, but, life span is a consideration.
     
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  12. LeeS

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    I am increasingly against traditional room acoustic treatments. Way more often than not I see these companies sell way too many panels that over-dampen the room and the midrange gets sucked out. I would want members here to be really aware of that.

    My solution has been a careful application of Synergistic Research HFTs which accomplish the same effect but are a lot less intrusive on the look of the room.
     
  13. timind

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    Do you have any pics of the HFTs in use? The skeptic in me is curious.
     
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  15. Strat-Mangler

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    Here's some info about them I compiled through their responses on Amazon.

    If you are concerned about bass absorption the 4-inch panels perform 4 times as well as the 2-inch panels at 125Hz. However, the two thicknesses perform equally well at 500Hz and above. Both thicknesses work very well to reduce reverb, ringing, and unwanted reflections in your room. The 4-inch panels will do more to even out the bass in the room, but they are not true bass traps and they will not absorb much below 100Hz.

    We use Roxul AFB Mineral Wool as the core material in our ATS Acoustic Panels.

    2-inch panels have an excellent NRC of 1.0. ATS 4-inch thickness are rated 1.15 out of 1. Superior sound absorption means fewer panels are required to effectively treat your space.
     
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  17. Hipper

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    Maybe, but that's not my experience.

    In a room 14' x 13' I've got 21 bass traps and ten other panels and have tried to prevent all reflections. No diffusors. I get good bass, fine mid range and acceptable high frequencies. Whilst I use to favour side wall reflections, eliminating most of them has made the sound crisper, precise. I like what I hear! (I didn't do this in one go but over a few years).
     
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  18. Helom

    Helom I'll take the monkey coffins Thread Starter

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    I'm mostly looking to replace my existing treatments with panels of better aesthetics. However, I must say the best sound I've heard was in an extensively treated room. It also had about 6 of these towers ($$$$):
    DaaD - Acustica Applicata
     
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  20. avanti1960

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    looks reasonable! just remember to double the panels when cost comparing.
    The proven entity GIK panels would still be my preference- you really need a 2' X 4' panel for adequate coverage.
    GIK Acoustics - 4A Alpha Panel Acoustic Panel - Absorber / Diffusor
     
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  21. George P

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    Can you link to where you are seeing the graphs?

    Do you suppose that these products would sufficiently absorb treble at first reflection points?
     
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  22. Helom

    Helom I'll take the monkey coffins Thread Starter

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    I would think a foam/fiber- only panel would be best for high freqs but I'm no expert on room treatment.

    I currently have Auralex foam panels at first reflection points. Most have been up since I moved in, so hard to say how effective they are overall. However, I put one up between the speakers on the forward wall and that improved imaging depth quite a bit.
     
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  23. Optimize

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  24. George P

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  25. George P

    George P Everybody's Lost

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    I currently use a piece of cardboard with an old, soft couch cushion wrapped around it. It does the trick, but now I'm wondering how much better these UA panels would work. Like this one (not sold on amazon): Sound Absorbing Acoustic Panel «Cinematic» — WorldWide Shipping | Fast Delivery
     
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