Rupert Hine: Surface Tension – The Recordings 1981-1983

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  1. stephenwtayler

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    Great news, even 'though I have the Voiceprint editions and A&M vinyls.
    All three albums are brilliant, my current fav is "The Wildest Wish To Fly".

    The 10" promo album "Hine Sight" would have been a nice addition to bonustracks but I guess it was unavailable.
     
  3. stephenwtayler

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    Hopefully the new versions will be an improvement over the Voiceprint editions - I was never happy with them. Yes 'Hine Sight' was fabulous - will see what we can do....
     
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  4. Eric_Generic

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    I foolishly dithered on the Unshy On The Skyline release until it went OOP, so I will have to make sure I get this.

    Have digital versions of two Rupert albums, from many years ago on eMusic (is that even still going?), but it's not the same as having CDs.

    EG.
     
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  5. AlmostHeavenWV

    AlmostHeavenWV The poster formerly known as AlmostHeavenWV

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    I have the first two LPs and the 'Hine Sight' 10", but never got round to buying 'The Wildest Wish ...', so I'll be getting this new set.

    Any chance of a John G. Perry set next, Mr. Tayler?
     
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    I guess that would be up to Esoteric Recordings/Cherry Red! Actually I first worked with Rupert on one of John's albums as a tape-op at Trident Studios - quite a while before I started to work alongside Rupert full time on Immunity after I became freelance. I saw John at Rupert's 70th birthday party - he is long retired from the music business.
     
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  7. PhR

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    I didn't find a clear answer from the liner notes who remastered them. Rupert was involved at some level with those reissues but were you at all?
     
  8. stephenwtayler

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    I had no involvement. They just felt like clones of the original CDs
     
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  9. PhR

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    Yes, A&M released them first. I have never seen those editions but any Hine CD around here is a rare sight.
     
  10. brimuchmuze

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    @stephenwtayler , will "Make A Wish" be the version from the original CD, or the version that was on the Voiceprint remaster of Immunity.

    (I never liked the Voiceprint version)
     
  11. brimuchmuze

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    @stephenwtayler , a few other queries...

    Is it correct these are remixed? If, so any chance of 5.1 versions?

    Will there be a high res release?

    Was there are compression applied, or mastering for CD by someone other than yourself?
     
  12. stephenwtayler

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    The only difference between the versions of ‘Make A Wish’ is the breakdown section in the middle which was edited into our original mix for the first LP release - this was demanded by the record label who didn’t want the robotic voice learning to speak. It was replaced with a sung section with a background beat.

    Rupert and I never liked this so it went back to the original full version for future releases. Like it or not, that was what was intended.

    The rest of the mix is identical.

    I think both my original CD and the Voiceprint version are identical, but I would need to check.
     
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  13. stephenwtayler

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    Sadly the multitracks have been lost - so no remix and no 5.1.

    No idea about high res release.

    I did the remastering for these CDs - there was compression on the original mixes, but it has been through a chain of subtle processes and adjustments in the mastering process to make it feel like the original mix sounded in the studio when it was mixed.

    The mastering for the original LP was a real compromise due to the limitations of the format - and I was always disappointed. The same mastering was used to create the first CD release and again this felt like a compromise. I believe the Voiceprint version was just a digital clone.
     
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  14. Mr Kinski

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    I had the privilege of reviewing this box-set and can confirm that @stephenwtayler has done a wonderful job, as always Rupert Hine – Surface Tension – The Recordings 1981-1983 review
     
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  15. PhR

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    Great review! One error 'though. It's not Chris Thompson from Earth Band but Chris Thomson from Cafe Jacques, whose two excellent albums Rupert produced in 1977 and 1978.

    One of my favourite moments on that album is in "One Man's Poison" when Steve Negus' (from Saga) drums come chrashing in after 4 or so minutes.
     
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  16. stephenwtayler

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    Quite right - sadly it is spelt incorrectly in the credits in the booklet - I am disappointed I didn't notice that - oh well......
     
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  17. brimuchmuze

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    I was just enjoying my old copy of "Waving Not Drowning" on vinyl before I found this thread.

    These albums sound fantastic, among the best I've ever heard.

    @stephenwtayler , wonderful job on engineering the recordings, looking forward to picking up this new box.
     

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