Sinatra / Capitol Sound Quality and General Discussion: Come Fly with Me (recorded 1957)*

Does anyone think noise reduction was used on the mono download?

 

Hi. For me, the best stereo edition I've heard of "Come Fly With Me" is the 1987 mix, released on CD. Does anyone disagree and can you advise me better about the mehlor version in stereo, be it LP or CD? I'm new to these issues and if anyone can help me, thank you.

 

Sorry, what is "mehlor"?

 

It's "better" in Portuguese.

 

I'm sorry, actually you write "melhor", which translates into English is "better".

 

No worries, I thought I had somehow missed a version of this album mastered by someone named Melhor. Or maybe I was worried that "Melhor" was Portuguese for "Norberg".

 

Ok.

 

I'm listening to the stereo mix (Walsh disc) for the first time. I've listened to the mono mix (UMe vinyl and Mastered for iTunes) dozens of times since first buying this album back in February or so. This stereo version is so different. It sounds limp. All those microphones on the mono version really add oomph. It's going to take me a while to get used to hearing it this way!

The sound on this Walsh disc is very good. I tried listening to the Norberg disc only once but found it irritating. It might have been a placebo effect. Who knows.

I just love this album. Every time I think I like another Sinatra album more, I listen to this one again and it goes right back to the top.

 

No placebo. The Norberg isn't good at all. The Walsh shows how great the stereo can sound when mastered properly.

 

Please don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with a good mono recording, but I’m primarily a stereo guy. There’s no doubt that the mono version of Come Fly with Me is much more detailed, but Larry Walsh’s stereo mastering of this album (despite all the technical problems associated with the original stereo recording) has some very special moments.

Like Matt, I also prefer the stereo version of the title song (along with several other tracks), but, for me, the most special song in stereo is Moonlight in Vermont. It certainly isn’t as detailed as the mono version, but the overall tone, sound stage, and mood created by the stereo version is sublime- I always find it a very special moment when I listen to this song, in stereo, very late at night.

Sometimes better detail isn’t always everything.

 

Good point!

 

The Une mono LP sounds best to me.

 

The Ume Mono Version is pure joy!!! I love it so much! I had the chance to rediscover this album all over again. What a gift.

 

I love "Isle of Capri" on that UMe record. When the orchestra kicks in it just blows me away. Every time.

 

Right, the whole album has much more "punch"!!! You can really "feel" the orchestra and drums and bass! Also love to hear the guitar on "Around the world".

 

I was wondering how one could tell if they come across one of these Neumann lathe cuts:

"There is one LP edition that is conspicuous in its absence, and that’s a 1970s/1980s Capitol USA pressing cut on the Neumann lathe. The Scully cuts I’ve heard are all duds, but I’d love to hear a Neumann cut (they do exist)..."
From your most helpful site of course!

The early 80's SM 920 with the blue label is not it correct? I was just sorting all my versions of this LP and threw this one on because I had not played it in quite a while.

Edit: Just put the 1983 MFSL LP on and wow - so much better. Have not played the stereo versions in quite a while - sounds great.

 

Side 1 is G9!
Side 2 is H1.
I only listened to side 2 today. I will check out side one tomorrow!

 

Will do. Thanks.

 

I compared my Neumann lathe side 1 (G9) with side 2 which is H1. No major difference that I could detect. May have been a little bit more midrange on the H9 side, but subtle. Also a bit more bass, but again subtle.

Compared the H9 side with the MFSL 1983 and the MFSL was much better all around. More open, more bass and just more dynamic.

Interesting thing to compare - thanks for the information.