Sixties British working-class films.

Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by Ghostworld, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. stepeanut

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    I’ve been working through the Woodfall box set this week, and thoroughly enjoying it. Some of these films I’ve not seen in many years.

    A number of locations used in A Taste of Honey are close to where I live. The area has changed a great deal, but the main landmarks are still recognisable.
     
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  2. alexpop

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    British kitchen sink owes it's style from Italian neo realism and French school ..Goddard, Traffut. Even A Hard Day's Night ..Ringo strolling about kicking a can along dirty canals, London black n white grime.
     
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  3. stepeanut

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    Please don’t let this be another thing that The Beatles get revisionist credit for. The British New Wave started years before they were even a thing.
     
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  4. alexpop

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    New Wave ? Sex Pistols, no. :D
     
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  6. Jim B.

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    Are you a Smiths fan?

    There are so many lines in that film that Morrissey 'borrowed':

    The most famous "I dreamt about you last night, and I fell out of bed twice" from Reel Around The Fountain

    The opening scene has the two girls chatting, one asks 'you going out tonight?' and she replies, 'I would but I havent got anything to wear' - This Charming Man

    Jo to the sailor boy 'I'll probably never see you again' - Hand in Glove

    Plus all these:

    "That river, it's the colour of lead.";
    "I'm not sorry and I'm not glad";
    "Oh well, the dream's gone, but the baby's real enough";
    "It's a long time, six months";
    "You can't just wrap it up in a bundle of newspaper. And dump it on a doorstep.";
    "I don't owe you a thing";
    "As merry as the day is long";
    "Sing me to sleep";
    "You want taking in hand";
    "It's your life, ruin it your own way.".

    My 'in' with British Kitchen Sink type films was in the early 80's being a Smiths fan and checking out all these films Morrissey would name-check, like A Taste Of Honey, Saturday Night and Sunday Morning etc.

    It's great when a band or musician (like Morrissey or Mark E. Smith) is so intelligent and well read that they turn you on to all this stuff you may not have ever come across.
     
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  7. stepeanut

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    Yes, I’m a Smiths/Moz fan, and I’m aware of most of those lyrical references. I became aware of the film and the band around the same time, in the 1980s, but I couldn’t tell you which came first. Being Mancunian, this stuff is engrained in the local consciousness.
     
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  8. alexpop

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    Hancock ..a genius or what?[/QUOTE]
    Hancock' best comedy sketch ?
    Maybe not the funniest, The Radio Ham. NOS anyone? :)
     
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  9. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    BeAt GirL ( 1960)
    Oliver Reed, Claire Gordon ( inspiration for Scott Walker's Archangel)
     
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  11. stepeanut

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    You’re welcome. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did. It’s a brilliant set.
     
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  12. alexpop

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    Still got to work myself through them. First BD disk watched was "The KnAck..and how to get it" debut of Charlotte Rampling, Jane Birkin ..Mainly viewed for film title / music ..locations. Prior to opening the box and dipping in. I seen a couple of other sixties films Expresso Bongo & Beat Girl.
     
  13. stepeanut

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    My least favourite of the set. It’s aged very badly, I think, especially all the rape talk toward the end of the film.

    Jane Birkin looking beautiful, as always.

    Yep, I have both of those as part of the BFI Flipside series. Man, I love all of those Flipside releases. So many obscure gems, and, like you, I love to see those 1960s U.K. locations.
     
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  14. alexpop

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    Least favorite?
    It was just a random pick wasn't in the mood for The Entertainer, Look Back In Anger ..not yet anyway.
    Birkin? She married John Barry later in the year.

    Flipside /dualdisc guess it's fine if you don't have a blu Ray player. DVD backup disc I guess.
     
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  15. stepeanut

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    The Knack left a nasty taste in my mouth. The tone shifts from anachronistic, yet harmless, sexism to something altogether more sinister. The stage-y script was no doubt well-intentioned, but it’s a serious misstep, IMO.

    I have a lot of dual-format releases. Never play the DVDs, but they take up no extra room on the shelf, so they don’t bother me greatly.
     
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  16. alexpop

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    The plot must have been amusing in 1965, swinging London and wot not.
    Dated of course, and values now. Again chiefly viewed for shops locations, Dolly birds. :D
     
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  17. Siegmund

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    Arguably Morrissey's most famous line 'jumped up pantry boy who does't know his place' was written, not by Shelagh Delaney, but by Anthony Shaffer and delivered by Laurence Olivier in the film Sleuth (1972):

     
  18. stepeanut

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    This is St. Mary’s Church, Stockport. I was walking past this morning and decided to snap a quick photo. There is a scene in A Taste of Honey between Rita Tushingham and Murray Melvin that was shot in the graveyard, which you can see through the arched entrance to the left of the church tower. It hasn’t changed much.

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. alexpop

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    Seen Murray Melvin once in London, he knew was he was recognised.

    Also Frank ( Pride)& Fred Cox (Prejudice)book people in Fahrenheit 451( they twins /smiled).
     
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  20. alexpop

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    very photogenic filmic location. Gloomy Friday morning by the looks of it.
     
  21. stepeanut

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    It’s not raining, which is the main thing. That’s a bonus in Manchester.
     
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  22. alexpop

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    Seen Tony Wilson at a book signing in Borders.
    Good photo composition btw.
     
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  23. alexpop

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    Miss Mark E Smith. He always had something relevant to say.
     
  24. alexpop

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    Still after three British sixties DVDs.
    Accident
    The Family Way
    A For Andromeda
     
  25. KAJ1971

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    Location:
    Worcester, England
    I think that got wiped. I'm sure I'd have it if it wasn't. It was remade by the BBC in about 2006. They did it live on air I think.
     

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